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When spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on a hummer, the ten grand compliance isn't an issue...
But if i tell you it's six thousand dollars to compliance your ten to twenty grand mini,
Are you going to pay it to get it registered?

Ok, for everyone wondering what is going on in import land...
To import a vehicle less than 15 year old you must have a Registered Workshop using the RAWS scheme, which costs about $60,000 to $100,000 to convert your existing workshop. This covers paperwork, inspections, assurance and insurance.
They government want to be able to control the level of work done (and the standards of your work)on these import cars. Also traceability of parts in the case of a fatal accident. They are basically setting the standards so high that only a few workshops around australia will be able to achieve this.
once you have a RAWS workshop you are then able to bring in a test car....
this car must be tested, documented, emmisions tested and inspected to all their demands. Finally the car must be crash tested... yes one of each model must be written off. This all cost about $50,000 per model of car...A MPI mini will have different emmisions test to a SPI therefore becoming two different models($100,000)
So if your wondering why the price for compliance is high, look beyond the purchase price and the actual work on the car that is required and what went into the setting up and costs involved in doing this.costs are approximate and vary workshop to workshop.
Remember I don't make the rules... I'm just abiding by them
Any futher questions???

The only problem there is none of the big mini places like sharing...thats the Australian way..."if I can't have it, nobody will"

Or the thought of being left with a smaller portion of the pie...hmmm, it ain't hat big a pie is it....thats why it should be carefully managed and nurtured :roll:

I myself have invested a lot of time and money into this project, and are very reluctant to give away my findings, As other places feel the same towards me....Yep....understand that...and no offence...but are you developing an Australia wide marketing and service network? no? too bloody hard? ....in comes my idea of an old fashioned Dealer Network...surely every small volume market needs to support its customers wherever they may be?
I am not against this idea.... but on the downside...

Who would have the RAWS workshop? No offence, but the majority of the Aussie population is in the East. So to be profitable and convenient for the majority, I would say Brickworx might have to move east :shock:

Who would control the 100 cars allowed? Obviously the main investors, and it wouldn't just be for the few grand you might make on each car, it would involve an equation based on the likely through life return on the importation of that vehicle including catering for possibly 3-4 owners.

Who sets prices? ....ummm..the market? is this a trick question

What boundaries would bet set? Well...anyone going into this venture would have to realise it is a low volume, high maintenance area (a bit like Ferrari but without the super prestige )....you could count on some sort of knock-on effect because the more people that saw great late model Minis zooming around the more converts you could count on and some return business based on the smile factor that we all know Minis engender :wink:

Author:	t_n46 [ Sun Aug 14, 2005 3:06 pm ]
Post subject:	importation
just wondering. why is it that you can get those massive (dangerous, fuel guzzling, anti-parkable, and expensive) Hummers imported into Oz but you cant get a nice 90's mini imported. This is a joke!!

Author:	poeee [ Sun Aug 14, 2005 3:15 pm ]
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Well you can, but it costs more to import them (ones after 89). Someone importing a Hummer won't be bothered about import costs.

Author:	MistyK [ Sun Aug 14, 2005 3:16 pm ]
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cos hummers come from america and we suck americas dick. basically.

Author:	brickworx [ Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:23 pm ]
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When spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on a hummer, the ten grand compliance isn't an issue... But if i tell you it's six thousand dollars to compliance your ten to twenty grand mini, Are you going to pay it to get it registered?

Author:	9YaTaH [ Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:34 pm ]
Post subject:	Compliance
brickworx wrote: When spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on a hummer, the ten grand compliance isn't an issue... But if i tell you it's six thousand dollars to compliance your ten to twenty grand mini, Are you going to pay it to get it registered? Steve...djyareckon you could try and explain the high compliance costs and the reasons they use to justify them:?: Is it because the dopey authorities greedily treat each import individually (just like no one has brought one in before ) Sounds totally bogus to charge that sort of freight once one late model mass produced Mini has been brought in to the country AFAIK

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Author:	brickworx [ Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:56 pm ]
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Ok, for everyone wondering what is going on in import land... To import a vehicle less than 15 year old you must have a Registered Workshop using the RAWS scheme, which costs about $60,000 to $100,000 to convert your existing workshop. This covers paperwork, inspections, assurance and insurance. They government want to be able to control the level of work done (and the standards of your work)on these import cars. Also traceability of parts in the case of a fatal accident. They are basically setting the standards so high that only a few workshops around australia will be able to achieve this. once you have a RAWS workshop you are then able to bring in a test car.... this car must be tested, documented, emmisions tested and inspected to all their demands. Finally the car must be crash tested... yes one of each model must be written off. This all cost about $50,000 per model of car...A MPI mini will have different emmisions test to a SPI therefore becoming two different models($100,000) So if your wondering why the price for compliance is high, look beyond the purchase price and the actual work on the car that is required and what went into the setting up and costs involved in doing this.costs are approximate and vary workshop to workshop. Remember I don't make the rules... I'm just abiding by them Any futher questions???

Author:	willy [ Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:13 pm ]
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Excellent summarising post there Steve. It will give everyone a clear overview of the system. A question, yep. Is it likely that you'd ever become a RAWS Approved workshop?

Author:	brickworx [ Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:03 pm ]
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yes, but I'm not sure that spending that kind of money is worth it, as my only passion is minis the amount of money extra that people would have to pay for compliance is too expensive. i.e. we would only probably sell 20 of these cars per year. maybe if we looked at different models of cars to import it might be more cost affective. yes we are researching this option now, and will keep you posted. what do you think??? is it worth me spending this sort of money.

Author:	willy [ Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:08 pm ]
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Bloody oath it is. I'll buy a rice burner from you. With my compo money. Instead of a Statesman.

Author:	brickworx [ Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:20 pm ]
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One car sold... ninety nine to go.

Author:	Rodney [ Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:59 am ]
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Bloody government departments........tying themselves and all of the fair dinkum tryers up in their red tape............over governing everything..............too scared to take a chance on being daring in case someone wants to sue the hell out of 'em..........man, that would be a huge investment in a thing that could take years to pay you back, if, in fact, it ever did. Yer............governments and their beaurocracy really piss me off - just in case you didn't know. Hooroo

Author:	9YaTaH [ Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:04 pm ]
Post subject:	Tanks
brickworx wrote: Ok, for everyone wondering what is going on in import land... To import a vehicle less than 15 year old you must have a Registered Workshop using the RAWS scheme, which costs about $60,000 to $100,000 to convert your existing workshop. This covers paperwork, inspections, assurance and insurance. They government want to be able to control the level of work done (and the standards of your work)on these import cars. Also traceability of parts in the case of a fatal accident. They are basically setting the standards so high that only a few workshops around australia will be able to achieve this. once you have a RAWS workshop you are then able to bring in a test car.... this car must be tested, documented, emmisions tested and inspected to all their demands. Finally the car must be crash tested... yes one of each model must be written off. This all cost about $50,000 per model of car...A MPI mini will have different emmisions test to a SPI therefore becoming two different models($100,000) So if your wondering why the price for compliance is high, look beyond the purchase price and the actual work on the car that is required and what went into the setting up and costs involved in doing this.costs are approximate and vary workshop to workshop. Remember I don't make the rules... I'm just abiding by them Any futher questions??? Thanks Steve, I still can't believe they are so stupid as to want to crash test on a model by model basis for a car that has basically remained the same structurally since 1959 a bogus waste of resources springs to mind It sounds like there could be a place in Oz for a single entry point funded by a consortium of interested parties including the likes of Mini spares and accessories shops. This way, the set up cost could be defrayed and the stakeholders could have a means of bringing cars in for on-selling (all pigs fed and ready to fly mate )

Author:	brickworx [ Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:12 pm ]
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The only problem there is none of the big mini places like sharing... Or the thought of being left with a smaller portion of the pie. I myself have invested a lot of time and money into this project, and are very reluctant to give away my findings, As other places feel the same towards me. I am not against this idea.... but on the downside.... Who would have the RAWS workshop? Who would control the 100 cars allowed? Who sets prices? What boundaries would bet set?

Author:	9YaTaH [ Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:52 pm ]
Post subject:	Ewwwwhh....weeeellll....sorta....
) brickworx wrote: The only problem there is none of the big mini places like sharing...thats the Australian way..."if I can't have it, nobody will" Or the thought of being left with a smaller portion of the pie...hmmm, it ain't hat big a pie is it....thats why it should be carefully managed and nurtured I myself have invested a lot of time and money into this project, and are very reluctant to give away my findings, As other places feel the same towards me....Yep....understand that...and no offence...but are you developing an Australia wide marketing and service network? no? too bloody hard? ....in comes my idea of an old fashioned Dealer Network...surely every small volume market needs to support its customers wherever they may be? I am not against this idea.... but on the downside... Who would have the RAWS workshop? No offence, but the majority of the Aussie population is in the East. So to be profitable and convenient for the majority, I would say Brickworx might have to move east :shock: Who would control the 100 cars allowed? Obviously the main investors, and it wouldn't just be for the few grand you might make on each car, it would involve an equation based on the likely through life return on the importation of that vehicle including catering for possibly 3-4 owners. Who sets prices? ....ummm..the market? is this a trick question What boundaries would bet set? Well...anyone going into this venture would have to realise it is a low volume, high maintenance area (a bit like Ferrari but without the super prestige )....you could count on some sort of knock-on effect because the more people that saw great late model Minis zooming around the more converts you could count on and some return business based on the smile factor that we all know Minis engender

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