hey guys, i have a question about front subframes.

Is there supposed to be spacers between the top of the suspension towers and the body? I pulled the front subframe out of my 78 clubman a while ago and i noticed the it had spacers (about 5mm thick) between the top of the suspension towers and the body. I just pulled out the front subframe from my 72 clubman and it didn't have those spacers.

So, i'm just wondering if all clubmans were supposed to have these spacers or if they were only used from a certain year?

Please help me out if you have a 72 clubbie and it has these spacers in it.

Cheers, Cazmo

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78 Clubbie - Future project.

Interesting Question from my experiance we have solid Spacers as you disgribed where the Uk guys have biffernt and softer
I'll be interested if thier are any changes in the years

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From memory... Rubber has a spacer and hydro has no spacer.

hmmm. someone must have accindently left the spacers out of my 72. it have rubber suspension.

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78 Clubbie - Future project.

Sorry Morris (Hydro) and Marcia (dry) both have solid space Marcia is a Van thou?

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Just checked the parts book...
Hydro = No Spacer.
Rubber = Spacer.

Hmmmm..I'll have to have a good look at Morris Tomorrow

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bang on the money.... and gaf, the van should have spacers, she aint no different - in fact, I've literally justy walked in from the garage after stripping my van's subframe

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The top of the frame is different between the two types of frame. The hydro frame kind of has the spacer built in and is flat across the top surface.
The rubber frame has two raised bumps around the stud holes and the spacer is there to make it flat.

What he said...^^^^^^

Another difference in Oz cars is the dry ones used studs & nuts, the hydros used bolts. Why??
Buggered if I know!!

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yeah, that's a pain in the bum... the long studs are 3/8 at the bottom, and 5/16 for the rest of it, so you can't just put bolts in the dry subframe - if you want bolts, you've gotta go and buy some 3/8 ones, and drill the holes in the crossmember big enough for them to go through.. wankers... maybe I'll just stick with the studs...

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I have heard also that...

people who leave the spacers out for a "tighter" ride can end up hammering body, mounts and suspension....the spacers (a Ripleys moment here) provide some sort of cushioning between subframe and body.....I'll bag my head now

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