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Author:  9YaTaH [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:41 am ]
Post subject:  Cones ain't Cones Saul!!
This is a doozey....

Cones are from an English bodied Mini (1000). They don't have a thread bolt hole :!: So how were they compressed and fitted in the first place :?:


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The other problem is that the new cones (from Karcraft - absolutely no criticism here) have a very course thread, whereas all the ones I have seen have the finer thread....has anyone else come across this problem :?: The only thing I can think of is that the cones provided are for Hi Los which may need the course thread :?:

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Author:  Circus_Maximus [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:55 am ]
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Original ones came in imperial thread (fine) new ones (supposed to ) come in metric (coarse) thread, my cone compressor has interchangeable thread parts.
Never seen a "no thread" one before, unless like one of mine, was completely rusted out, just had a big hole. That was fun getting it out!
Hi-lows fit same as aluminium struts, locate into the rim. Threads in rubber donut part are only for fitting and removing.
Dino.
Author:  fuzzy-hair-man [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:58 am ]
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Mick the cones that were manufactured later use a different thread:

From www.minimania.com about thier cone compression tool:

Quote:
Any time you do major suspension work on a Mini involving the front spring (rubber cone), you will need to have this tool. It comes with center posts to work with early (SAE thread 1/2" X 20 fine thread) and late (metric - 14X2) cones. All suspension cones since 1976 have been metric.


Another quote same place:
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CAUTION; there are two types of threads used in the rubber springs. Pre 1976 had a fine, 1/2"UNF imperial thread and post 1976 ones had a coarser, 14mm metric thread. Don't wind one into the other - cross-threading the rubber spring will be a nightmare of epic proportions!
Author:  Mini Mad [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:12 pm ]
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They went to the thicker metric thread in the later cars cause the thin thread rusted out much easier.

If you have no thread, the only way to get them in the front is to take the top arm out. Shorten the Hi-lo and put it in..

I have never seen or heard of one with no thread hole at all like that pic :?
Author:  9YaTaH [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Thanks
Thanks guys....as usual, a big help... :D
Author:  EST-071 [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:16 pm ]
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Standard rear ones had no thread.
Pete
Author:  fuzzy-hair-man [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:21 pm ]
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Mini Mad wrote:
If you have no thread, the only way to get them in the front is to take the top arm out. Shorten the Hi-lo and put it in..

I have never seen or heard of one with no thread hole at all like that pic :?


I think I said before but...

What we did with the cones that had no hole / thread was drill a hole and tack weld a nut to the bottom side of the cone. :wink: The problem I might have and we will just have to see I guess is that the weld might heat up the rubber of the cone too much :shock: but I guess we will see it will take a while for the cones to sag as a result anyway, it works fine at the moment.
Author:  Bromley [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:11 pm ]
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Mick,
Despite what some people might say, rubber cones can be installed without the need for a cone compressing tool.

I have watched Tim do it a few times now

Being able to do this would negate the need for the thread.
Author:  9YaTaH [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Thanks
Thanks Andy....yeah the compressors were invented so that you could do service on an assembled suspension in a car.
Author:  Bromley [ Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:47 pm ]
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Indeed... never considered having to do it in the car. Also think that perhaps new cones would not be as easy as old ones.
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