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Author:  Fez [ Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Asbestos and other nasties.

Besides the brake pads is asbetos hidden in an other car parts?

Do any of the gaskets contain asbestos?

Are there any other nasties I should be wearing a particle mask around whilst I restore?

Author:  Morris 1100 [ Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:49 pm ]
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Old brake linings and old gaskets contain asbestos.
The new ones should be safe (which is why everyone blows headgaskets these days)

Author:  awdmoke [ Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:54 pm ]
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Yes, old head & manifold gaskets contained asbestos.
Just scrape them off. Not a dust problem unless you go using power tools.

Author:  Fez [ Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:06 pm ]
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Thanks for the info guys, I'll have to be more careful in the future. I was only using a hand scraper on old deteriorated gaskets, so hopefully I havent inhaled to much dust.

How about the tappet side cover gaskets, were they asbestos?

Author:  awdmoke [ Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:22 pm ]
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They were usually cork on the old engines.
Don't sweat about it too much, asbestos is only dangerous when it's in loose fibre/dust form, e.g. brake dust (but not brake shoes)

Author:  adeee [ Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:25 pm ]
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mikes right. The dust is the reason asbestos is feared. Its just that no one knew it at the time.

Author:  9YaTaH [ Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Lucas

You can also find asbestos inside old switches where it was used as insulation....you can also find another nasty here ...Beryllium.

Author:  Fez [ Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:52 pm ]
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Yeah thats right adeee, I just assumed that gaskets were made out of something else for some reason. I used to see my father cut out gaskets from a paper like material, I assumed was kind of like cardboard.

Author:  simon k [ Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:32 pm ]
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Fez wrote:
Yeah thats right adeee, I just assumed that gaskets were made out of something else for some reason. I used to see my father cut out gaskets from a paper like material, I assumed was kind of like cardboard.


the asbestos would have only been in head and manifold gaskets, I'm sure the normal sealing gaskets would have been paper, that's what he would cut gaskets out of - I cut gaskets out of gasket paper.....

Author:  LS1380 [ Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:36 pm ]
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awdmoke wrote:
Yes, old head & manifold gaskets contained asbestos.
Just scrape them off. Not a dust problem unless you go using power tools.

The "pink" extractors gasket were the best-now there crap...

Author:  CPOCSM [ Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Lucas

9YaTaH wrote:
You can also find asbestos inside old switches where it was used as insulation....you can also find another nasty here ...Beryllium.


Beryllium is now mainly in electronic stuff like resistors, capacitors, CD players(and mini CD players)but only dangerous if heated(really really heated) to about 550-650 degs C then it changes and releases a very poisonous gas and a fine powder. The downside is if Beryllium is burnt and the gas/powder released, the car/shell/compartment within which the gas is released is a no-go zone(it is residual and bonds to everything in it - lungs, skin, carpets etc...)

Therefore the car/compartment that has had a major fire in it cannot be used again and is deemed useless = scrap.

Another thing is too that I se a lot of people still using BCF extinguishers in their cars or house. Again THE best form of quelling a fire however releases chlorine and phosgene gas = very very dead in a matter of seconds. Not to mention a HUGE fine from the EPA for having it in commission.

These cars we drive are deathtraps...lolol

This is what we have to deal with at sea on a warship - fires are our biggest fear as 1 - it is our floating home and 2. there is nowhere to run if there is a fire onboard...the stuff in the radar and electronic systems are lethal!! The best fire fighting thing we had on ships was the old destroyers/destroyer escorts "steam drench" system. Basically 1200psi of steam was released into a compartment effectively smothering everything in it.

Hooroo

Rob Forsyth
Miniot!!

Author:  matt van'74 [ Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:24 pm ]
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some paints on older cars, like my 1957 morris minor, had lead and asbestos based paint. it is best if you use wet and dry sand paper and it keeps the dust down

cheers

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