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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:31 pm 
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I filled in the paperwork today to get the mini passed with the 1275 in it?? how do you reckon I will go in Transport SA with 13?s on the mini? :?


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Whats the make.
Whats the width.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:45 pm 
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they are 13x5.5 superlites from performance


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I know that Performance Superlite 10x5 have legal track, but unsure on the x5.5.

I doubt you will have a problem at all :wink:

If possible... fit steelies / see if you can borrow a set.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:52 pm 
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yeah i am hoping to get it through as borrowing wheels is just a pain......


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TRANSPORT S.A. wrote:
WHEELS AND TYRES

All wheels and tyres fitted must comply with the Road Traffic (Miscellaneous) Regulations 1999.

The main points to note are:-

(a) The wheel track must not be increased by more than 26mm beyond the maximum specified by the vehicle manufacturer. Maximum allowable tracks for individual vehicle models can be obtained from Transport SA. The wheel track is the distance measured across the vehicle from the centre-line of one tyre to the centre-line of the other tyre on the same axle.

(b) The wheels and tyres must not foul the body, suspension or any part of the vehicle under any operating conditions and must not project beyond the bodywork, when the wheels are in the straight ahead position and viewed from above.

(c) It is recommended that the tyres fitted to an axle of a vehicle must be of the same carcass construction. The tyre size designation of tyres fitted to an axle is required to be the same.

(d) The tyres fitted must be suitable for the rim. The tyre retailer should have information about matching tyres and rims.


(e) The load rating of the tyres must be adequate for the vehicle. ADR 24 vehicles (manufactured on or after 1/1/73) have this information listed on the tyre placard. The load rating of any tyre fitted must not be less than lowest load rating listed on the placard. For vehicles manufactured before 1/1/73 the tyresmust have a load carrying capacity equal to or greater than those supplied as standard equipment by the vehicle manufacturer.

(f) Spacers are not permitted between the hub and wheel (unless originally fitted by the manufacturer)

(g) If the wheels of a vehicle are retained by multiple nuts or set screws, not by splines and a single nut, then the wheel nuts must match the tapered holes in the wheel and the nuts must be engaged for their full depth of thread.

(h) Wheels that have been widened by inserting a spacer band are not permitted.

(i) Vehicles manufactured on or after 1 January 1973 (ADR 24) are not permitted to increase or decrease the diameter of the wheel by more than 50 mm than the largest or smallest wheel listed on the tyre placard.

(j) The overall diameter of a wheel and tyre fitted to a vehicle manufactured on or after 1 January 1973 (ADR 24) must not be more than 15 mm greater than the largest tyre size listed on the tyre placard and not more than 15 mm less than the smallest tyre size listed on the placard. Specifications for overall tyre diameters are listed in the Tyre and Rim Standards Manual, issued by the Tyre and Rim Association of Australia.

(k) Vehicles manufactured prior to 1 January 1973 are not required to comply with (i) and (j) above however consideration must be given to clearance of the tyres and wheels on suspension and body components.

(l) Passenger cars manufactured on or after 1/7/88 must also comply with ADR 18/.. that stipulates that the speedometer must indicate the actual vehicle speed, for all speeds above 40 kilometres per hour to an accuracy of plus or minus 10 percent.

When selecting aftermarket wheel rims for a motor vehicle, ensure that the offset of the rim does not vary by more than 13mm from the original rim fitted by the vehicle manufacturer. This will ensure that the wheel track is not increased by more than 26mm beyond the maximum specified by the vehicle manufacturer.

Transport SA has a list of maximum allowable wheel tracks for a large variety of vehicles and can be consulted to confirm if a wheel track is within acceptable limits.

Wheel rims fitted to passenger cars manufactured after 1st July 1985, which are not original equipment or an original equipment replacement by the vehicle manufacturer must be indelibly marked with the wheels nominal diameter, width and offset and with identification of the manufacturer of the wheel and the standard to which the wheel was manufactured. This should be checked before the wheels are purchased.

Tyres fitted to a vehicle must have a tread pattern at least 1.5 millimetres deep on all parts of the tyre that normally come into contact with the road surface. Tyres are manufactured with tread wear indicators that are located in the tyre grooves in at least four points around the circumference of the tyre. If the tread wear indicators are at the same level as the overall tread, or there is less than 1.5 millimetres of tread depth on the
tyre, then the tyre is considered to be illegal.

Tyres fitted to passenger cars may not be treated by recutting or re-grooving of the tread unless the tyre is constructed to do so and marked as such.


You CAN apply to have your car fitted with 13x5.5's tested for legality. It will cost you around $300 per attempt. :wink: OR you could go thru there on 12 inch stockies (assuming you have 8.4 disc brakes fitted, as they will also be checked by Regency) then swap em over when you get home.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:41 pm 
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does anyone know the standard track fornt and rear on a mini?


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The track width varies between models / brake assemblies.

Non stepped drums, 10x3.5 rims (common on 850's and 998's)
Front - 120cm
Rear - 116cm

Narrow (1/2 inch) stepped drums, 10x3.5 rims (common on 1100's)
Front - 123cm
Rear - 119cm

Cooper 7.5 inch disc and large (1 inch) stepped drum, 10x4.5 rim (on most 1275's)
Front - 125cm
Rear - 121cm

Clubman 1275cc 8.4 inch disc and large (1 inch) stepped drum, 12x(?) rim
***need to check these, but I think they are similar to the 7.5 inch disc setup***



I am pretty sure these figures are correct, but if not, somebody here will correct me within a couple days.

Might be a good time to go out and measure the track on my race car :shock: Im sure they'd be in the 130's all round 8)

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With laws like that you guys cant pimp the good 'ol 26 inch rimmmzzzz, what a shame.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:14 pm 
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thanks super for your info has been very helpful....... yeah we do had strict rules in SA but oh well its what we have


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supercharged 850 wrote:
Cooper 7.5 inch disc and large (1 inch) stepped drum, 10x4.5 rim (on most 1275's)
Front - 125cm
Rear - 121cm

Might be a good time to go out and measure the track on my race car :shock: Im sure they'd be in the 130's all round 8)


Checked mine......

Front - 135cm
Rear - 128cm

Yep thats wide :shock: 8)

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whats the limit for NSW regualations? I tried finding it through google and rta but nothing came up what the maximum without using flares and all that other hoo ha...? and also with flares?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 5:04 am 
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Did you have a read of these????

http://au.search.yahoo.com/search?p=RTA+vehicle+track+width&meta=&fr=fp

I dont have the time to read thru em....... but they SEEM to be in the correct field of information


And they dont usually set the rules to suit arches, the rules are made to suit brakes and bearing load capacities. Arches are simply a cosmetic application to cover any moving parts (wheels) that happen to be out past the original panel.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 5:28 am 
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Ok people now that Ive read up on all this I want to share something to all my fellow post 1973 Mini owners. whether it be the 10" or the 12" max width of tyre without engineer certificate and if axel and suspesion setup is the same as what it came with out of the factory you can increase the width without a signatory(engineer) is 25mm just under a INCH.

however if a non standard axel or suspension setup is used where the offset to the wheel in relation to axel or stub axel assembly used cant be increased by more than 12.5mm on each side of the car based upon the axel assembly specs etc........

otherwise 26mm (1 inch) unladen (0-801kgs) if engineer certificate is waranted to increase tyre width. All the above info is for REAR wheels.

Front wheels cannot be wider than the rear
Front wheels cannot be narrower 70% to that fitted in the rear
Front wheels cannot be narrower than what the factory gave your vehicle

I hope I wrote that down ok if you have other questions like i did earlier about NSW regulations on tyres and rims see the following site. Hope this is helpful. If i mistyped or misspelt or even wrote the ibfo down wrong its all there below I was jsut reirrating it.

using this as a guide and thelink being better if your vehicle came with 12x4.5 the max without engineer cert is 12x5.5 and so forth you get the picture anyways.


see link for correct accurate details for NSW :arrow: :arrow: http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/ ... 9_rev4.pdf


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supercharged 850 wrote:
The track width varies between models / brake assemblies.


Narrow (1/2 inch) stepped drums, 10x3.5 rims (common on 1100's)
Front - 123cm
Rear - 119cm


Narrow stepped ones were 3/4", used on some Mokes.
I bought some by mistake once.
Never seen them fitted stock on any Mini, 1100 motor or not.

Mini K and 1100 Clubby had flat drums.

The Cooper S, Clubman GT and Mini S got the wide (1") ones. :wink:

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