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Metalfab_101
PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:26 pm 
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Does anyone know what the tare mass of a mini saloon (eg, not van) is?

Dunno if this is on one of the body plates or in a workshop manual somewhere.

This will probably be slightly different between, hydro, dry, roundies & clubbies.

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From Black Book..
Kerb weights:
850 etc 630
Cooper 635
Mini 1100 625.5
Deluxe 652.4
matic 677
Clubby 657.3
Cooper S 716.4
Clubby GT 709.8

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From the Haynes manual


Weights
Kerb weight:
Saloon (rubber cone suspension):
Manual transmission . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 638 kg
Automatic transmission . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 658 kg
Saloon (Hydrolastic suspension):
Manual transmission . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 679.5 kg
Automatic transmission . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 699.3 kg
Estate . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 686.7 kg
Van . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 621.5 kg
Pick-up . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 622.4 kg
Maximum towing weights:
Saloon . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 404 kg
Estate, Van and Pick-up . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 303 kg
Maximum towing hitch load . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45 kg
Maximum roof rack load . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40 kg

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I'd trust the Leyland Oz black book over a Haynes. Pommy cars were different steel thickness and equipment.

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Just after i posted that I remembered where my manual is :roll:

Interestingly it lists quite different figures:

Saloon: 1294lb -> 588kg
Van: 1334lb -> 605.09kg
Traveller: 1456lb -> 660.43kg

The book in question is "The Complete Morris Austin Mini Workshop Manual" Published by Scientific Publications, 1st Edition, August 1968.

Kev, what's the "black book"???

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Leyland Australia Workshop Manual, 1976. Covers most Oz models.
Still available new from www.pitstop.net.au for $70.

Scientific Pub and many others reprinted stuff from UK books. eg we never had the traveller here. :wink:

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drmini in aust wrote:
Leyland Australia Workshop Manual, 1976. Covers most Oz models.
Still available new from www.pitstop.net.au for $70.

Scientific Pub and many others reprinted stuff from UK books. eg we never had the traveller here. :wink:


I was thinking that. But that is a good thing, as the heavier it is the bigger engine you are allowed to swap in :twisted: (this is in Qld BTW). And you are supposed to take the weight from the heaviest sedan model. And that would be the porky Cooper S at 716.4kg. Which basically means that according to the rules we're allowed an NA engine up to 2149.2cc or turbo'd/supercharged engine up to 1791cc.

Anyone for a SR20 or F20B (2 litre VTEC) :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Maybe even a turbo'd 1600 or some description :shock:

Of course you DO have to actually fit it in there...

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does my ass look big in this..GT 709.8kgs

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gafmo wrote:
does my ass look big in this..GT 709.8kgs


I was thinking about making a quip at Makka but I decided against it :D

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he doesn't have a GT..but Anton Does..hehe

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he doesn't have a GT..but Anton Does..hehe


Oops, I thought he did. No hard feelings eh Makka? :D

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huh wot
i had a gt till i gave anton the badge lol
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The cooperS and GT are fat bastards :lol:
Especially in comparison with a early 1200 ute at 670kg :shock:
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Sorry to dig up this old chestnut :oops:
but has anyone actually weighed their van or sedan?
(besides bnicho)

I would like to get an accurate kerb mass, and after searching & reading 16 pages of discussions & despite the figures from both Haynes & Leyland I believe Mad Matt when he says he has weighed them & vans are heavier than sedans.

Talking dry suspensions here people. Just doing my research :wink:

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drmini in aust wrote:
Leyland Australia Workshop Manual, 1976. Covers most Oz models.
Shame it dosnt cover the OZ doors!!!

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