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| Author: | Dixon Bainbridge [ Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | tyre rub |
Gday, my right side tyre is rubbing at pretty much all times when turn left, I'm thinking i need spacers, however, the right side tyre does not stick out as much as the left one does, which is why it rubs obviously. What i want to know is if this is an indicator of something wrong, like trailing arm or something like that. Cheers, Matt |
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| Author: | Spaceboy [ Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:24 pm ] |
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are you talking about the front tyres? you say when you are turning (front)but then refer to the trailing arm? (rear) what size wheels do you have are you running discs or drums, and what type? |
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| Author: | Dixon Bainbridge [ Mon Sep 04, 2006 10:35 pm ] |
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I have 10's with 165 rubber on them, the rubbing has only started since i had the 165's on the rims. The rubbing is on the back right wheel. Right now i have the spare tyre on the back (145) and it doesn't rub anywhere near as much. Running drum brakes all round. Pretty sure i only need spacers, but if someone wants to prove me wrong that would be good. When I say turning i mean turning, like when you turn left and all the weight of the car goes on the right side, hence pushing the wheel into the arch. |
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| Author: | simon k [ Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:00 pm ] |
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what is it rubbing on? - the inside of the tyre against the radius arm, or the tread against the mudguard if it's against the mudguard, then you might have a really really badly worn radius arm bush and it's flopping up and down if it's the inside against the radius arm, then that's pretty common with fat tyres on standard rear drums - drums with built-in spacers are the solution, and you'll probably need flares if you don't have them already. Some people make up spacer shims to go between the drum and the wheel, but I'm not a fan one side rubbing but not the other - next time you get a wheel alignment get them to check the back end, but it's probably not a big deal, many minis aren't aligned very well at the back and crab a bit |
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| Author: | Spaceboy [ Mon Sep 04, 2006 11:29 pm ] |
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yeah 165's shouldnt fit at the back without spacers, 145's shouldnt rub at all.. how low is it sitting? it might be fouling on the shock absorber? |
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| Author: | Dixon Bainbridge [ Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:33 am ] |
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no shocks, hydro. The last time i got a pump up the car ended up with the front sitting up way higher than the back, still like that now. The 145's only rub a tiny bit when i really hammer it round a corner, like i said before, the right side wheel seems to sit in a tiny bit more than the left (even with both tyres being 165s). For now i might just get the spacers and leave the trailing arms, because i need a pump up if i do the arms, plus i havent got the time. So it's not good adding spacers between the wheel and the drum? It seems like a lot more cash for the stepped cooper s drums. Thanks for the help lads. |
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| Author: | Spaceboy [ Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:51 am ] |
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sounds like you have subframe or trailing arm issues then 
and hydro usually sits lower at the front. second hand stepped drums shouldnt be too bad costwise, otherwise you can cut the step off worn out stepped drums and use that.. you'll need new (longer) studs if you want to use stepped drums or a spacer. also i think so long as the spacer is bolted to the drum then they're okay. |
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| Author: | simon k [ Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:08 am ] |
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but what is actually rubbing on what? it's a very very odd situation to have the front sitting way up in the air at the front when the hydro is pumped up - almost as if the hydro has been removed at the back or is blocked (but blocked on both sides ???) - UNLESS it was really high at the front right after it was pumped up, and you simply let the fluid out instead of taking it for a drive to get it to settle I suggest you get someone to have a look at it - sounds like there is more going on than can be solved by typing stuff on here |
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| Author: | richarde [ Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:47 am ] |
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I have heard that using spacer plates instead of stepped drums is illegal in WA, but personally I don't see what the big deal is. as long as the plates are flat and true and you bolt the wheel on with everything straight and correct it should be ok. Luckily we don't have regular inspections over here, and it would be highly unlikely that you would get picked up by the cops on this. (I am not suggesting that you break the law of course  )
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| Author: | simon k [ Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:10 am ] |
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richarde wrote: I have heard that using spacer plates instead of stepped drums is illegal in WA, but personally I don't see what the big deal is. as long as the plates are flat and true and you bolt the wheel on with everything straight and correct it should be ok. Luckily we don't have regular inspections over here, and it would be highly unlikely that you would get picked up by the cops on this. (I am not suggesting that you break the law of course
)AFAIK they're illegal everywhere, unless they're bolted/fixed to the hub - not just held on by wheel nuts. I guess the illegality of them is because some people would think it's OK to get a bit of chequerplate and drill some holes at home and whack them on |
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| Author: | Dixon Bainbridge [ Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:24 am ] |
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The front end was sitting up high straight after the pump up, Cono at minicraft left it a bit high at the front because he thought that it would level out. The tyre is rubbing on the inside of the wheel arch. But only when i turn hard left and all the weight moves onto the right hand side. Quote: yeah 165's shouldnt fit at the back without spacers, 145's shouldnt rub at all..
If 165s arent supposed to fit without rubbing, then why is my left hand side not rubbing and the right is? |
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| Author: | Spaceboy [ Tue Sep 05, 2006 3:48 pm ] |
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yeah, better get that looked at |
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