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 Post subject: building a engine
PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:58 pm 
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G'day,

I have had a few mini's in the back yard for a few years now and i really want to pull my finger out and get one on the road.
The body is going to get painted in the next week or so, so i now need a working engine to go in it, I beleive i have most of the parts to build it but I just don't have the know how to put it all together.
I could just send all the bits off to a engine builder and get it back working but i really want to be involved in the building so i learn to do it myself.
So if there is anyone interested in helping i am willing to pay cash/ beers or what ever?? is it a job that can be done in a few hours, a day a weekend??
i live in Dapto (just south of Sydney).

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Hmmm, this almost sounds like another "Ausmini In the Driveway" effort...

Might be worth organising a small cruise and get people who have know-how and tools to come along and show the less-knowledgeable .....

I'm not volunteering to do it... but maybe a good idea for someone... (Kev ?)

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 Post subject: Machining....
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If you just want go through your engines and find the best.....well a working bee might be the go....however....if they are all too far gone, then stripping, machining and assembling with new parts will be required.....n....that ain't something you do in one Saturday.

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Have a look at the trend of motor failures from self-builds vs. motor failures from professional builds.

That's all I'm saying. :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 9:42 pm 
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not sure if you know about minisinthegong or not but check out http://www.minisinthegong.com.au/
if you want the motor built revolution racegear would do it id say, although not sure what the waiting list is for getting work done, but it is more then likely where im getting my gearbox rebuilt when i here back from them.


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willy wrote:
Have a look at the trend of motor failures from self-builds vs. motor failures from professional builds.

That's all I'm saying. :lol:


I have built 6 motors(some with quadruple the capacity of the A Series)and no formal training except a haynes manual

Failures = ZIP!

runners = 6(!!)

100 percent by my calcs :lol: - might be a trend???

Hooroo

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:20 am 
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as mentioned in previous post i dont want to send it off to a pro as i want to be involved,

My situation is, I have 1x 850 which was complete and very original, 2 Deluxes (1 complete and drivable (998 a bit rough though) and the other just a shell with a 998 engine minus many bits) + a 998 in bits that apparently has been machined and just has to be put together.

The plan, use 850 shell (going to get coat of paint soon) and put a 998 (using bits from the 3 i have) into it.

I beleive i can manage just about everything except building the engine, and maybe droping it in car.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:22 am 
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as mentioned in previous post i dont want to send it off to a pro as i want to be involved,

My situation is, I have 1x 850 which was complete and very original, 2 Deluxes (1 complete and drivable (998 a bit rough though) and the other just a shell with a 998 engine minus many bits) + a 998 in bits that apparently has been machined and just has to be put together.

The plan, use 850 shell (going to get coat of paint soon) and put a 998 (using bits from the 3 i have) into it.

I beleive i can manage just about everything except building the engine, and maybe droping it in car.

Cheers


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100 percent by my calcs - might be a trend???



I'll back Rob on this one, I've got 5 engines in 15 years with no bad eggs. This is straight after leaving school and starting with nothing but a Gregorys and a russian set of spanners and sockets, I borrowed a torque wrench.

They're very agricultural engines unless you want to make it difficult.

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I think provided you have a rough idea what you're doing and follow a book any
engine you build yourself will be fine, whereas a pro would be under more pressure from time and money where it could be easier to cut corners?


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willy wrote:
Have a look at the trend of motor failures from self-builds vs. motor failures from professional builds.

That's all I'm saying. :lol:


Hey hey! watch yourself :lol: :P

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:18 pm 
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Harley wrote:
I think provided you have a rough idea what you're doing and follow a book any
engine you build yourself will be fine,


I do have a service manual, i might dust it off and have a squiz through it.

I'm guessing I'll need the following new bits:

-gaskets? what sort? i already have a head gasket kit as they gave me one when i got the head reconditioned,
-spark plugs, leads,
-oil filter,
-anyone know if its possible to get kit of all realavent nuts bolts (just incase)
any other new bits i require when putting it together?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:39 pm 
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I would replace every gasket and you [really, really] should replace the oil pump.
Everything else is budget dependent. :D


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