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Author:  czerial [ Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:32 am ]
Post subject:  datsun A12 head on a mini?

I've heard around the grapevine that it is possible
to fit an alloy head from an A series Datsun
motor with minimal modifications onto a
Mini A series. Don't be too fast to pass this off
as the Japanese built many of their engines using the
proven european designs to copy from.

If anyone can tell me If their is any truth in
this or if it is utter bullocks it would be
much appreciated :mrgreen:

Author:  ausminis4u [ Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: datsun A12 head on a mini?

czerial wrote:
I've heard around the grapevine that it is possible
to fit an alloy head from an A series Datsun
motor with minimal modifications onto a
Mini A series. Don't be too fast to pass this off
as the Japanese built many of their engines using the
proven european designs to copy from.

If anyone can tell me If their is any truth in
this or if it is utter bullocks it would be
much appreciated :mrgreen:
its totally untrue.i have an a12 head at home in my garage :( (for sale btw ) ;) there is no easy way to fit ti to a mini block, none of the studs line up and the pushrod holes are on the wrong side of the head. also the push rod holes are spaced further apart. this head MAY fit onto a B series motor if u face the spark plug holes backwards , but not much use to us :(

Author:  simon k [ Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:26 am ]
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are you the Chris that works for Shannons?

never heard of the datsun head, but a BMW K1100 motorbike goes on with minimal mods - buggered if I can find it on google, but I've got a link at home to the conversion details

Author:  czerial [ Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:11 am ]
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yes thats me-

btw is the head a 1200 gx head??

Author:  ausminis4u [ Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:13 am ]
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czerial wrote:
yes thats me-

btw is the head a 1200 gx head??
? are u asking me?

Author:  czerial [ Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:16 am ]
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yep, asking you about the head, and replying back to the bloke that
asked if i work at Shannons,

Author:  poeee [ Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:18 am ]
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Won't fit, they are an Austin A40 engine. (i think)

Author:  ausminis4u [ Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:21 am ]
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czerial wrote:
yep, asking you about the head, and replying back to the bloke that
asked if i work at Shannons,
i have no idea about the origin of the head lol , was a swap meet bargain

Author:  ausminis4u [ Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:22 am ]
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poeee wrote:
Won't fit, they are an Austin A40 engine. (i think)

the datsun head fits on an a40? arent they a series aswell?

Author:  poeee [ Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:39 am ]
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I think the engines are indentical, and no, they are NOT A series. They are bigger in physical size, 1200cc, and pre BMC merger (so REAL Austins).

Author:  simon k [ Thu Oct 21, 2004 11:16 am ]
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czerial wrote:
yes thats me-

btw is the head a 1200 gx head??


no, it's an 1100 head, hence K1100, 16 or 8 valve DOHC. The front (5) studs line up, you need to drill and tap holes for another 5 at the back of the block, make up a front pulley and tensioner, and some oil feed lines - I'll post the link tonight. I got quoted $1000 from a motorbike wreckers in melb for a complete head - I'm sure hunting around would come up with a complete stuffed motor for $500-ish

Author:  bnicho [ Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:50 pm ]
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Links to BMW heads on A series blocks:

http://www.users.qwest.net/%7Eshuko/

Imagine the surprise on a Camaro/Mustang/Firebird driver's face when that very tatty looking Mini flew past!

An Aussie "copycat" project:

http://www.miniman.com.au/bmw.htm

Now, why do I have these bookmarked on my WORK computer. :lol:

Cheers.

Author:  doogie [ Thu Oct 21, 2004 3:49 pm ]
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When i was rallying a Datsun 1200 coupe, i would have given my left nut for a GX head, now one just pops up :x

Doogie

Author:  drmini in aust [ Thu Oct 21, 2004 5:52 pm ]
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ausminis4u wrote:
poeee wrote:
Won't fit, they are an Austin A40 engine. (i think)

the datsun head fits on an a40? arent they a series aswell?


Dunno where this rumour started but it's BS.
I've checked out the Datsun head, forget it. No way it will fit either A series, B series or the old A40 either. Pushrods (& the Datsun's camshaft) are on the wrong side... opposite to all Austins except the C series.
So forget it... :lol:

Author:  poeee [ Thu Oct 21, 2004 5:55 pm ]
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All I know is that there was one Datsun/Nissan engine that was basically a copy of the A40 engine. It makes it easyer for my father to buy thermostat housings, hehe.

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