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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:22 pm 
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As the heading says... Having diffuculty selecting 1st gear (only when statonary).

When rolling forward slowly it goes in ok, which leads me to believe it could need a clutch adjustment, not a syncro problem.

Any thoughts or advice.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:34 pm 
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Try pumping the clutch rapidly, then selecting first.


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me too santo!
mines a new box, so i am assuming its the linkage under the gear lever
somethign about a rod with an eye hole in it, that the gear lever goes into.

i (and quite a few others) pull it down towards 2 first, and then back up to 1
kinda helps

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It's a common rod change problem when the linkages wear out. As Duc says it is wear in the lever in many places, the biggest offender is this part here:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Mini-Rod-Change- ... dZViewItem

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Me too Santo!
And there is only a very small range of very slow crawling that lets me get it in 1st.
I suppose its no real problem,
Just a little annoying.

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68matic wrote:
i (and quite a few others) pull it down towards 2 first, and then back up to 1
kinda helps


Thats what i used to do. 2-1-2-1-2-1....1 Done!

Ah, the joys of owning a mini... :roll:

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Stuwey wrote:
68matic wrote:
i (and quite a few others) pull it down towards 2 first, and then back up to 1
kinda helps


Thats what i used to do. 2-1-2-1-2-1....1 Done!

Ah, the joys of owning a mini... :roll:


Yeah... Joy!

What makes it worse is i've installed a KAD quickshift and the closer ratio makes it harder to engage... (BUT quicker to change :!: :wink: )

Lillee... Does that steel sleeve connect the rod to the selector shaft?

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:32 am 
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Santo, i wouldn't worry too much about wear in the mech - That car has one of the tightest gear linkages i have ever driven.

I think the problem was/is elsewhere..... :?

Meh, just keep drivin :D

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AHAHAHAHHAHAHA.

My 850 usually needs the 2-1 trick, I thought of it all on my own about a year ago and figured I was the only one doing it till I read this thread. I'M NOT ALONE ANYMORE!!!

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you guys..... adjust the bloody thing!!!

screw the little bolt in the clutch housing out 1 turn, pump the pedal a couple of times, then try getting it into 1st.... it may have magically fixed itself! - if it hasn't, then screw it out another turn

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I would not be happy with a gearbox that I had to select second before I selected first...


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you guys..... adjust the bloody thing!!!

screw the little bolt in the clutch housing out 1 turn, pump the pedal a couple of times, then try getting it into 1st.... it may have magically fixed itself! - if it hasn't, then screw it out another turn


Mine has a synchro lock on it that will only let me select first if i'm stationary. Half the time it doesn't release unless i'm still at the lights. If i'm at a stop sign and still creeping you have to do the 2-1, better then trying first and only getting it in 50% of the time, and the other half you almost end up stalling playing around.

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skssgn wrote:
you guys..... adjust the bloody thing!!!

screw the little bolt in the clutch housing out 1 turn, pump the pedal a couple of times, then try getting it into 1st.... it may have magically fixed itself! - if it hasn't, then screw it out another turn


here here!!

I had the same issue. Had to go 2nd, then 1st when statinery. Adjusted the clutch and now right as rain! :lol:


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Shard wrote:
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you guys..... adjust the bloody thing!!!

screw the little bolt in the clutch housing out 1 turn, pump the pedal a couple of times, then try getting it into 1st.... it may have magically fixed itself! - if it hasn't, then screw it out another turn


Mine has a synchro lock on it that will only let me select first if i'm stationary. Half the time it doesn't release unless i'm still at the lights. If i'm at a stop sign and still creeping you have to do the 2-1, better then trying first and only getting it in 50% of the time, and the other half you almost end up stalling playing around.

Shard


that's a 3 synchro gearbox.... the synchromesh ring just doesn't exist, your gearbox isn't designed to allow you to change into first while you're moving, same as reverse....

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skssgn wrote:
screw the little bolt in the clutch housing out 1 turn, pump the pedal a couple of times, then try getting it into 1st.... it may have magically fixed itself! - if it hasn't, then screw it out another turn


I screwed it out 1 turn to begin with, it Seemed better with the engine running but not driving it, so brought it out 1 more turn. Will drive it after work.

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