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Author:  leyland brother [ Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Difficult to select 1st

As the heading says... Having diffuculty selecting 1st gear (only when statonary).

When rolling forward slowly it goes in ok, which leads me to believe it could need a clutch adjustment, not a syncro problem.

Any thoughts or advice.

Thanks.

Author:  willy [ Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:34 pm ]
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Try pumping the clutch rapidly, then selecting first.

Author:  68matic [ Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:43 pm ]
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me too santo!
mines a new box, so i am assuming its the linkage under the gear lever
somethign about a rod with an eye hole in it, that the gear lever goes into.

i (and quite a few others) pull it down towards 2 first, and then back up to 1
kinda helps

Author:  Lillee [ Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:53 pm ]
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It's a common rod change problem when the linkages wear out. As Duc says it is wear in the lever in many places, the biggest offender is this part here:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Mini-Rod-Change- ... dZViewItem

Author:  Namibian CAMEL [ Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:57 pm ]
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Me too Santo!
And there is only a very small range of very slow crawling that lets me get it in 1st.
I suppose its no real problem,
Just a little annoying.

Author:  Stuwey [ Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:58 pm ]
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68matic wrote:
i (and quite a few others) pull it down towards 2 first, and then back up to 1
kinda helps


Thats what i used to do. 2-1-2-1-2-1....1 Done!

Ah, the joys of owning a mini... :roll:

Author:  leyland brother [ Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:11 pm ]
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Stuwey wrote:
68matic wrote:
i (and quite a few others) pull it down towards 2 first, and then back up to 1
kinda helps


Thats what i used to do. 2-1-2-1-2-1....1 Done!

Ah, the joys of owning a mini... :roll:


Yeah... Joy!

What makes it worse is i've installed a KAD quickshift and the closer ratio makes it harder to engage... (BUT quicker to change :!: :wink: )

Lillee... Does that steel sleeve connect the rod to the selector shaft?

Author:  Stuwey [ Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:32 am ]
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Santo, i wouldn't worry too much about wear in the mech - That car has one of the tightest gear linkages i have ever driven.

I think the problem was/is elsewhere..... :?

Meh, just keep drivin :D

Author:  Shard [ Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:40 am ]
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AHAHAHAHHAHAHA.

My 850 usually needs the 2-1 trick, I thought of it all on my own about a year ago and figured I was the only one doing it till I read this thread. I'M NOT ALONE ANYMORE!!!

Shard

Author:  simon k [ Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:42 am ]
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you guys..... adjust the bloody thing!!!

screw the little bolt in the clutch housing out 1 turn, pump the pedal a couple of times, then try getting it into 1st.... it may have magically fixed itself! - if it hasn't, then screw it out another turn

Author:  willy [ Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:45 am ]
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I would not be happy with a gearbox that I had to select second before I selected first...

Author:  Shard [ Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:58 am ]
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skssgn wrote:
you guys..... adjust the bloody thing!!!

screw the little bolt in the clutch housing out 1 turn, pump the pedal a couple of times, then try getting it into 1st.... it may have magically fixed itself! - if it hasn't, then screw it out another turn


Mine has a synchro lock on it that will only let me select first if i'm stationary. Half the time it doesn't release unless i'm still at the lights. If i'm at a stop sign and still creeping you have to do the 2-1, better then trying first and only getting it in 50% of the time, and the other half you almost end up stalling playing around.

Shard

Author:  GT [ Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:15 am ]
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skssgn wrote:
you guys..... adjust the bloody thing!!!

screw the little bolt in the clutch housing out 1 turn, pump the pedal a couple of times, then try getting it into 1st.... it may have magically fixed itself! - if it hasn't, then screw it out another turn


here here!!

I had the same issue. Had to go 2nd, then 1st when statinery. Adjusted the clutch and now right as rain! :lol:

Author:  simon k [ Fri Nov 03, 2006 9:21 am ]
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Shard wrote:
skssgn wrote:
you guys..... adjust the bloody thing!!!

screw the little bolt in the clutch housing out 1 turn, pump the pedal a couple of times, then try getting it into 1st.... it may have magically fixed itself! - if it hasn't, then screw it out another turn


Mine has a synchro lock on it that will only let me select first if i'm stationary. Half the time it doesn't release unless i'm still at the lights. If i'm at a stop sign and still creeping you have to do the 2-1, better then trying first and only getting it in 50% of the time, and the other half you almost end up stalling playing around.

Shard


that's a 3 synchro gearbox.... the synchromesh ring just doesn't exist, your gearbox isn't designed to allow you to change into first while you're moving, same as reverse....

Author:  leyland brother [ Fri Nov 03, 2006 10:43 am ]
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skssgn wrote:
screw the little bolt in the clutch housing out 1 turn, pump the pedal a couple of times, then try getting it into 1st.... it may have magically fixed itself! - if it hasn't, then screw it out another turn


I screwed it out 1 turn to begin with, it Seemed better with the engine running but not driving it, so brought it out 1 more turn. Will drive it after work.

Thanks guys.

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