keep it off your hootus aswell..
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| Author: | bez [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:37 am ] |
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if i have a bare metal shell, with the majority of surface rust removed and no real terminal rust, is it necessary to use metal ready? are there any do's and donts for using por15 or a specified method other than those in the info guides? thanks |
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| Author: | Wombat [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:46 am ] |
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I would use the Metal Ready as there is probably minute rust you cant see. besides if you have a problem with the finish you have no come back as you didn't follow the directions. Only other thing is keep it off you hands - nothing but nothing will take it off so you will be stuck with messy looking mits for a week! |
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| Author: | birty [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:51 am ] |
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Just make sure that you are fully aware of what needs to be done (or the conditions) if you are intending to paint over the POR-15'ed areas afterwards. I would also recommend using Metal Ready as you have done all the hard work already - don't give rust any possible chance to come back in the areas you have treated. Cheers, Birty |
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| Author: | Zizzle [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:51 am ] |
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Yes use metal ready. It etches the metal as well as cleaning up forming rust. Let's face it, all metal ready is is a rust converter. But hey it's meant to work with the POR-15. You're paying $75 a litre for the POR-15 you may as well pay the $25 for the metal ready to make it work properly. |
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| Author: | cush [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:09 am ] |
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keep it off your hootus aswell..
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| Author: | britishvita [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:44 am ] |
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Quote: Yes use metal ready. It etches the metal as well as cleaning up forming rust. Let's face it, all metal ready is is a rust converter. But hey it's meant to work with the POR-15.
You're paying $75 a litre for the POR-15 you may as well pay the $25 for the metal ready to make it work properly. Yep what Zizzle said is so true, also the moisture in the air might have already started some minute rust on the bare metal that you may not even be able to see yet. Do it right the first time and you shouldn't have to touch it again |
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| Author: | gafmo [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:34 am ] |
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Bez don't take short cuts 
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| Author: | Lillee [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:40 am ] |
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Worth doing it right first time. Once done right it's magic stuff... |
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| Author: | bez [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:22 pm ] |
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ok thanks for clarification i was actually looking at the shell today and thought its probably a good idea anyways. no shortcuts  
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| Author: | Morris 1100 [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:29 pm ] |
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When Por 15 came out it was advertised as the only thing you would ever need to paint over rust. POR stands for Paint Over Rust. It was advertised as just get out the gun and spray straight over the rust. Since then you not only need Por 15 paint but you need "Metal Ready" primer and also "Marine Clean" I wonder how long till they add another step in the paint over rust process?
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| Author: | bez [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:37 pm ] |
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maybe the 15 = the amount of years it will last? or the possible amount of steps that there are - ill probably stuff something up. ha ha, no! 
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| Author: | feralsprint [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:37 pm ] |
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I know that when they put it on the market in the USA the claims made were very big but as time went by the raves turned to many question about why it didn't live up to its claims and just like here now more steps were added and the finger of blame pointed at the user, we will have to wait and see but as far as I know there is no magic stuff you can paint on rust to convert it to metal unless its the same stuff used to turn hay into gold, read that in a book once. You can however clean it up and coat it in something that denies it air so it doesn't rust untill the air seal is broken Jon |
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| Author: | buztoy [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:49 pm ] |
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allthough not discoverd yet i reckon there would be something magic wander sort of chemical that could do, all they need to do is to stop the iron particles to stop oxidising, i repeat it has nt been invented or discovered, its a big call and could be placed on the same level as getting pigs to fly but i still reckon it could be done |
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| Author: | gafmo [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:50 pm ] |
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Morris 1100 wrote: Since then you not only need Por 15 paint but you need "Metal Ready" primer and also "Marine Clean" I wonder how long till they add another step in the paint over rust process? What Primer
Can't say anything about before I have used it but like any process you have to follow the steps and I can't fault it. The poor Screw driver I mixed the paint in that first time is still going strong and it don't get any help from me So you have to clean it in a special liquid...you should do to any metal anyway...what the differnace |
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| Author: | red_mini_mad [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:39 am ] |
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For rust converter and prevention I used a product called Metal fix and Metal Fix 1000. I have used as a base under paint so for many years on cars, machinery etc without a problem.. Here is the link to the site. http://www.phoenixpaints.com.au/m_04_01.html The only problem with this is being water based it takes weeks to dry prior to painting a top coat /Tim |
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