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| Author: | andbat [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | cheap spray guns |
can some-one give me a good brand name of cheap spray gun for around about $70. i am using it to spray the primer on molly's new shell, not for the paint itself for that i'll hire or borrow. but anyone know of any good cheap ones, or will they all do the same kinda job, i'd like one with the thingo that holds the stuff on top. |
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| Author: | mini-dunger [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | spray guns |
gravity feed guns are good but they are fairly expensive. if its just for acrylic primer go to supercrap or similar. For 70bucks there probly isnt a "good" brand but at the end of the day you get what you pay for. |
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| Author: | 850pete [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | guns |
Spend a few bucks more and I think the pick of the cheaper guns are the Star Branded guns A Star 106G gravity feed gun with a 2mm tip will be ideal for the occasional user to spray Acrylic Primers, 2K primers and Acrylic Topcoats. If you have to use the same gun just make sure you clean it thoroughly between use. Around $120 is what you should be able to pick one up for at Auto Paint suppliers or ebay etc. |
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| Author: | Mini Mike [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:41 pm ] |
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if its only for primer a cheapy will do.... you have to sand it anyway... Star is a good one, its a iwata that didnt make quality controll. |
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| Author: | mini-dunger [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 12:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | spray gun |
True my good gun is a star s-4000 gravity feed HVLP blah blah. It has copped a beating and its still going stron. I have a 2mm set up and a 1.6mm set up. Cost me 230beans from EPTS |
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| Author: | rogg [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: spray gun |
mini-dunger wrote: I have a 2mm set up and a 1.6mm set up.
What are good settings to use for a primer, a colour and then a top coat? |
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| Author: | Mini Mike [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:03 pm ] |
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you need about a 1.8mm for primer and 1.4mm for base and clear.. Although a good painter can paint with anything. Mike |
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| Author: | rogg [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:02 pm ] |
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So wat do you think? http://cgi.ebay.com.au/STAR-S-106-GRAVITY-FED-SPRAY-GUN-BONUS_W0QQitemZ140070415798QQihZ004QQcategoryZ34999QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem or http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-GRIP-3-Pc-HVLP-AIR-Spray-Gun-Kit-1-4mm-1-7mm_W0QQitemZ180069730236QQihZ008QQcategoryZ22779QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Worth it for a first timer having a go for himself? Not looking for show car finish, just a fresh coat on a tired looking moke. |
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| Author: | 850pete [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 7:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | guns |
If your painting Acrylic at home then the Star 106G with the 2.0mm tip would be my choice, if your particular with keeping it clean then you will be able to paint your primer and also any colour coat you like with it so you don't have to go to the expense of different guns. This is the best budget minded choice in my opinion. I wouldn't be too concerned with HVLP at this stage, unless you have a massive compressor it won't make any difference to your finish. It does after all stand for High Volume of AIR at LOW pressure...........not High volume of Paint at low pressure which is a common misconception. Most home compressors can't supply the necessary amount of air needed to make a difference in paint savings. A good general rule for picking a gun is..... 3 way adjustability.....Fan pattern, mixture and Air pressure For Acrylic Primers 2.0mm tip For Acrylic Topcoats either 1.8 or 2.0mm tip (a beginner should probably stick with 2.0mm) For 2K primers 2.0mm tip For 2K topcoats (solid colours/clears) 1.4mm tip For 2K basecoat (metallics/pearls) either 1.0mm 1.1mm 1.2mm 1.3mm or 1.4mm tip (which all depends on what your spraying and the desired finish) 1.4mm is the most commonly used 2K basecoat tip. It comes down to personal preference if you want a Gravity fed gun or an old style suction style gun..........my preference is for Gravity because i prefer the way they sit in your hand and you can see how much paint is left in the cup too!! and also the technology and precision machining that most good quality branded Gravity fed guns offer. |
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| Author: | rogg [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:36 pm ] |
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Great Info 850pete. Cheers So then what sort of compressor would you need? Or what sort of requirements to look for in a compressor to do a decent job? |
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| Author: | 850pete [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | guns |
At home your always going to be limited by the amount of Electricity you have at your house, Unless you have 3 phase power you will need to buy a compressor that will run on single phase power. I have a 15cfm compressor with a massive tank on it that has (i think) 280litres/min Free Air Delivery that I bought from a company here in Brisbane called TradeTools. I'm not sure if you guys down south have the same tool company there or not but i love my compressor as its capable of running almost every air tool i have. Go with the biggest you can afford and I'd also recommend buying one that you know that the place your buying it from can back it up with service and spare parts if needed. I think for painting you need a minimum of 12CFM with a large tank to supply enough air to keep you going, there's nothing worse than trying to put down wet coats of paint only to run out of air and by the time the compressor catches up your paint is drying and and theres dry spray everywhere!! The Bigger it is the more air tools you can use which is invaluable when restoring cars, rattle guns, air ratchets, die grinders, DA sanders are terrific to have and use and once you do you will wonder how you ever got by without them!! I think 17CFM is the largest size compressor you can get that will be able to be run on Single Phase power. My 15CFM compressor from memory cost me around $750 a couple of years ago and i've never had any problem with it, Buy from a compressor specialist or at at least a recognised tool company, the automotive retail store and hardware store compressors leave a lot to be desired when it comes to actual output. |
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| Author: | Mini Mike [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:02 pm ] |
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Rog I may be able to get one for you heaps cheaper mate. Im sure my mate who owns a automotive shop told me he can give me them for $100. Ide have to ask him though. Let me know pm if your interested and I will go see him. Mike |
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| Author: | Mini Mike [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:04 pm ] |
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oh just saw the price on the ebay one It would probably cast me $20 bucks to post it anyway |
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| Author: | rogg [ Thu Jan 11, 2007 9:39 pm ] |
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Cheers mate, yea im in melb but will be in syd aust day weekend. If you want to check with ur mate, it may be worth it. |
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| Author: | rogg [ Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:19 pm ] |
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Bringing back an old thread, but just picked up a compressor today. Looking for a gun to start next week. http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HVLP-Gravity-Fee ... dZViewItem or http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... :middle:au And whats the difference between the two? Will this do both the primer and top coats? Not looking to spend a fortune as it may only get used a couple of times. But something that a first timer can have a good go with. I know its not going to be perfect but gotta start somewhere, and with the tools I may even choose a new colour in a couple of years. |
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