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Author:  PetenSoaf [ Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:42 am ]
Post subject:  Original BMC paint technique

For our MkII S restoration, I want to get things as close as possible to original. . .
It seems that the engine should be Dulon 13261 (metallic green) and the wheels and switch panel (?) Dulon 13260 (silver birch metallic). . .presumably acrylics.
Every time I have seen an engine that is painted to look 'original', it always looks fairly dull - not a lot of shine on it at all. . .and often the wheels are similar.
Would BMC have originally clear coated these metallic colours?
I'm fully aware that they should have but I would have though that it was probably fairly unlikely that they did. . .
Does anyone have any idea?

Author:  graham in aus [ Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:58 am ]
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Hi PetenSoaf, Clearcoats, or 'Clear over Base' as it is known, are a relatively modern paint type, BMC would not have used that on engines.

I once visited Longbridge engine plant trying to sell them paint strippers (amongst other things) The jigs and hangers for the engines were always the most difficult to strip.

They used to put them in a big oven and literally burn of the build up of paint. So called 'Thermal stripping' ! :?

Author:  9YaTaH [ Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:04 am ]
Post subject:  BMC

The BMC/Leyland Heritage Group would be the place to ask this question :idea: ...Peter should be able to direct your question:

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Author:  64cooper [ Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:13 pm ]
Post subject:  paint

I'm about to give my engine a coat of the same colour BMC paint that I had made up. It is certainly a much shinier finish on the few items I have done so far eg: tappet cover and various brackets. I can post a before and after pic of the motor if interested in seeing what it looks like.

This is the before pic.

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Author:  chopchop [ Sat Jan 13, 2007 2:29 am ]
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when i respray my engine and wheels i am going to have a gloss shine on it, think it would look great. I agree the original looks a bit flat.

Author:  PetenSoaf [ Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: paint

DWASmith wrote:
I'm about to give my engine a coat of the same colour BMC paint that I had made up. It is certainly a much shinier finish on the few items I have done so far eg: tappet cover and various brackets. I can post a before and after pic of the motor if interested in seeing what it looks like.

This is the before pic.

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The finish on your chest covers in the above pic looks about 'right'. . .so was this acrylic paint? Aaaand. . .was it clear coated?

Thanks,

Author:  AJ [ Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:05 pm ]
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All Aussie Cooper S engines where painted a Light Metallic Green , the paint was supplied by Berger Paints , code CP8689 . The colour did vary slightly from batch to batch , so its hard to get a "correct" match . The colour for the wheels and switch panel is as you say Silver Birch , supplied by Dulux . These where acrylic paints and where NOT clear coated ....cheers

Author:  ryan [ Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:07 pm ]
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If i take that code into a paint shop (Berger Paints , code CP8689) will they be able to make it up for me andput it in a spray can?

What type of paint would it be eg. acrylic, enamel?

Any info as i also want to paint my engine.

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Author:  Wombat [ Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:21 pm ]
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This is Dulux Hammertone Rust paint in a spray can - colour is Forest Sage

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Edit: sorry its blurred - actual colour is a little browner than is showing on the screen

Author:  Mike_Byron [ Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:30 pm ]
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If you want a spray can for the engine then use
White Knight's "Alpine Green"

Its so close to the original colour and its a simple tough fast setting paint.

I wouldn't even bother chasing a berger mix IMO.

Author:  64cooper [ Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:08 pm ]
Post subject:  paint

The paint on the push rod covers is the original from 1964/5. Been well protected by all the oil leaks. I was quite surprised after cleaning the motor. I used the rocker cover to take to a paint supplier for a colur mix match of engine enamel, not the one shown in the pic. I have no clue what sort of paint they supplied but I know it is not your every day enamel as I needed a special thinner to enable me to use my spray gun. The following links are todays handiwork, forgive me, I'm only an amateur painter. The rocker cover I did earlier in the week. Now for a time when my sons can give me a hand to put it back in.

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/D ... rcover.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/D ... earbox.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/D ... ousing.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/D ... ngine1.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/D ... ngine2.jpg
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i59/D ... ngine3.jpg

cheers

David

Author:  Wombat [ Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:12 pm ]
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Very nice David. Did you happen to get the formula?

Author:  PetenSoaf [ Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:56 pm ]
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AJ wrote:
All Aussie Cooper S engines where painted a Light Metallic Green , the paint was supplied by Berger Paints , code CP8689 . The colour did vary slightly from batch to batch , so its hard to get a "correct" match . The colour for the wheels and switch panel is as you say Silver Birch , supplied by Dulux . These where acrylic paints and where NOT clear coated ....cheers


Brilliant!!
Thanks, AJ - exactly the info I was looking for!
No wonder the wheels and engines start to look crappy in no time - unprotected metallics aren't exactly the most durable finishes!

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