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Author:  Blokeinamoke [ Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Sump Bolt
Is the sump bolt alloy or steel? Is there a an expansion difference between the bolt and the sump case when warm?

I have have got the sump case warm the oil warm and she no wanto come?

Any suggestions?
Author:  Mick [ Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:36 pm ]
Post subject: 
Well magnets stick to it...it's at least ferrous.

Anyway, isn't steel an alloy?
Author:  slinkey inc [ Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:45 pm ]
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Not really. Iron is the element. Steel is mostly Ferrous (Iron II) but with some extra including (Iron III, the ion of tha tis rust).

So I guess you could say it is an Alloy, but really for the sake of it, it's not, it's really Iron.
Author:  9YaTaH [ Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Crack It
Have you tried turning it anti-clockwise??
Author:  Blokeinamoke [ Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Crack It
9YaTaH wrote:
Have you tried turning it anti-clockwise??


um ...yes..derr :lol:

I using a pipe wrench. The problem is TPO has used a cold chisel on it. So I have nothing to grip on. The bolt is completely mangled.

Maybe I should be clearer. Any sugesstions on how to remove a magled sump bolt?
Author:  Mick [ Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:43 pm ]
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We just went through this last night on another thread. But it looks like you may have to resort to the cold chisel as well and replace it.

http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic ... col+chisel

Once the chisel has touched it, it's usually useless for anything else.
Author:  BOB1275 [ Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:33 pm ]
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get one of thoses screw removers you drill a hole in the centre then screw in the tool then screw it out and the bolt should come with it iv used them a few time they work pretty good

cheers bob
Author:  tinymorris1969 [ Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:01 pm ]
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get a set of vice grips on it and use them they are guarrented to work or ur money back
Author:  sports850 [ Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:07 pm ]
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If it's not working with a pipe wrench/stilsons which has a longer handle than a pair of vice grips then I doubt vice grips will budge it .

Stephen , if all else fails , try an easy out as BOB1275 suggested or even weld (short bursts so as to not build up too much heat) a nut onto the end of it . Have you put the stilsons on it and put a jack under the end and left it sitting with pressure on it for a while , might help persuade it to come loose ...
Author:  9YaTaH [ Sat Feb 17, 2007 5:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Magled=Mangled
Is there enough meat left to file a couple of flats for a large open ender :?:

Drilling it could be harder than what you think....what happens when you get through the soft alloy head and hit the magnet...does it just fall off into the sump :?: You could fish it out I suppose but could be tricky.

OH...have you tried a little local heat :?: It probably has been thread locked.
Author:  drmini in aust [ Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Magled=Mangled
9YaTaH wrote:
Is there enough meat left to file a couple of flats for a large open ender :?:

Drilling it could be harder than what you think....what happens when you get through the soft alloy head and hit the magnet...does it just fall off into the sump :?: You could fish it out I suppose but could be tricky.

OH...have you tried a little local heat :?: It probably has been thread locked.

Don't mess about, plug is steel, just get the MIG and weld a socket to it. It'll be off in seconds. 8)
Author:  Mick [ Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:08 pm ]
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What's going on? A rash of sump plugs jamming? It's like they've all gone on strike. Anyone remember the movie maximum overdrive? maybe the machines are conspiring against us....
Author:  9YaTaH [ Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Mangled
drmini in aust wrote:
Don't mess about, plug is steel, just get the MIG and weld a socket to it. It'll be off in seconds. 8)


Doc you could also weld a nut on :?: ....maybe people should be putting copper grease on the thread when they do oil changes...and not overtightening the plug.
Author:  Mini Mike [ Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:18 pm ]
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As doc ssaid... Go down to super cheap get yourself a cheap socket to fit a larg ratchet preferbly a 1/2 drive rachet (big sucker ratchet) or if you dont have a 1/2 drive ratchet get one for a 3/8 drive Then weld what ever size socket you got onto your sump plug. Plug your ratchet in and it will be offf so quick.

By the way I havent tried this and if you do, let us know how it went.

Mike
Author:  mini-dunger [ Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:30 am ]
Post subject:  Maximum Overdrive
maximum overdrive was an awesome movie. I think it was a little underated. Plus ACCA DACCA did the sound track!
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