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| Author: | blue1275 [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | help.......Gemini starter |
Ok firstly thanks for the people that replied about my starter motor. Ive heard lots about these gemini starters being the way to go. My next question is can i just go and get a gemini starter motor and will it bolt straight in. What year gemini am i taking this starter out of for this conversion if anyone can help?????. The wiring wont be an issue at all. |
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| Author: | lil-ute [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:12 pm ] |
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early gemini as long as its 9 tooth, try a weber as well |
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| Author: | wild_willy [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: help.......Gemini starter |
blue1275 wrote: Ok firstly thanks for the people that replied about my starter motor. Ive heard lots about these gemini starters being the way to go. My next question is can i just go and get a gemini starter motor and will it bolt straight in. What year gemini am i taking this starter out of for this conversion if anyone can help?????. The wiring wont be an issue at all.
It wont bolt straight in. You will need to elongate the mounting holes with a round file. |
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| Author: | harvey69 [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 5:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: help.......Gemini starter |
wild_willy wrote: blue1275 wrote: Ok firstly thanks for the people that replied about my starter motor. Ive heard lots about these gemini starters being the way to go. My next question is can i just go and get a gemini starter motor and will it bolt straight in. What year gemini am i taking this starter out of for this conversion if anyone can help?????. The wiring wont be an issue at all. It wont bolt straight in. You will need to elongate the mounting holes with a round file. is that pretty much the only mods..? |
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| Author: | lil-ute [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 5:30 pm ] |
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yep just a good file and patience |
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| Author: | Morris 1100 [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:18 pm ] |
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It is not quite as easy as people are making out. It is very easy to make it fit but the second part is getting power to it. Some people get stuck on this bit if they have little knowledge of electrics. You need to bypass the standard solenoid. You need to run the key wire from the old solenoid to the new starter. |
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| Author: | supercharged 850 [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:25 pm ] |
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Morris - are you saying to bypass the standard gemini solenoid or the standard mini one? Shouldnt both solenoids do exactly the same thing?? |
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| Author: | drmini in aust [ Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:31 pm ] |
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You bypass the original, because the Gemini one throws the pinion ito mesh, then spins the starter. Put the white/red wire onto the Gemini solenoid spade, and the original starter lead onto the battery lead stud, so it's live. 
All the other minor wires stay where they were on the battery stud of original solenoid. |
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| Author: | 9YaTaH [ Tue May 01, 2007 11:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Jackaroo |
Overheard tonight...."a lot of Mini racers" are running Jackaroo starters (later technology than Gemini).. |
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| Author: | 1310/71 [ Wed May 02, 2007 6:49 am ] |
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When I bought mine, I went looking for the older rear wheel drive Gemini's (I think their code was TD TE or something like that). I happened to luck upon one which had been reconditioned (or bought new) within the previous 2 yrs judging by the date stamped on it and general condition. File the holes inwards until the starter mounts into the position correctly (this takes a bit of trial and error, but isn't hard. Then sort the wiring as people have described. I used one of the standard two poles on the mini solenoid to "join" the lead from the battery to that of the starter and wired the gemini solenoid as above. If he hasn't mentioned it already, Doc usually (correctly) advises people that if you have a round nose and a cooper S style oil cooler mounted in the normal location, the solenoid will foul on the cooler. I have a clubman with the oil cooler in a similar position, but as it sits higher than the solenoid, it is not a problem for the clubbie. KB |
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| Author: | Matt68 [ Wed May 02, 2007 9:35 am ] |
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Heritage Mini Parts 93-103 Victoria St Smithfield 02 9609 3988 www.mgspareparts.com.au Have brand new starters already modded for you and include wiring instructions to get rid of mini solenoid. Mine was $125 about two years ago.... Damn good deal whichever way you slice it. |
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| Author: | supercharged 850 [ Wed May 02, 2007 1:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jackaroo |
9YaTaH wrote: Overheard tonight...."a lot of Mini racers" are running Jackaroo starters (later technology than Gemini)..
Jackaroo and Gemini engines are basically the same, but the Jackaroo has 200cc larger capacity. |
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| Author: | willy [ Wed May 02, 2007 1:17 pm ] |
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Jackaroo = big flywheel = fast starter motor speed = good for high Compression minis 
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| Author: | Spaceboy [ Wed May 02, 2007 1:34 pm ] |
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what are the advantages of fitting a gemini starter? can you fit a rover (A+) starter to a non A+ engine? |
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| Author: | willy [ Wed May 02, 2007 1:38 pm ] |
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They fit, but are noisy. 
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