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Author: | sports850 [ Tue May 15, 2007 5:08 pm ] |
Post subject: | Hardie Spicer joint removal |
Not the joint itself but the flange that comes out of the diff housing on either side , I'm trying to replace the seals before I fit the motor to the van and they're not coming off easily . I have two methods given in different workshop manuals so what do people do , I've got the bolt out of the center , plus the washers and the big rubber "washer" . The books say either a pully remover type puller or a slide hammer , what works the best on stubborn flanges ? |
Author: | DOZ [ Tue May 15, 2007 5:15 pm ] |
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There are two little half moon clips under the washer and rubber when you remove the bolt. I don't think they will stop the joint from coming out unless they are jammed somehow but you'd better check. Other than that I can't see why they would be tight?? ![]() |
Author: | sports850 [ Tue May 15, 2007 5:18 pm ] |
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OK , I'll have another look , my manuals didn't mention them so I'll amend them .... |
Author: | doogie [ Tue May 15, 2007 7:08 pm ] |
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Ian, they should just slide out, maybe you might have to give them a tap to get them out, the seal could be binding on them. Doogie |
Author: | Mick [ Tue May 15, 2007 7:12 pm ] |
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I seem to remember a detent ring around the output shafts. If so they will need a little bash or a decent pull to get them over the detent and then just fall off. |
Author: | sports850 [ Tue May 15, 2007 7:19 pm ] |
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Ok , thank's guy's , I'll have another go while the little dude has a nap tomorrow . |
Author: | drmini in aust [ Tue May 15, 2007 8:35 pm ] |
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Mick wrote: I seem to remember a detent ring around the output shafts. If so they will need a little bash or a decent pull to get them over the detent and then just fall off.
No detents on S shafts, like the pot joints have. They should just slide off, a tap from behind should do it. Maybe somebody Loctited the big bolt, and it got into the splines... if so you'll need a puller. |
Author: | sports850 [ Wed May 16, 2007 2:34 pm ] |
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Your suggestion is looking like a winner Doc , everything else on this motor had been locktighted and I really had to stand on the breaker bar to get the bolts undone so I guess the original builder used locktite there as well ..... Whoever it was must have had something fall off before because they masde sure this wasn't going to fall apart . I'll get a puller and give it a go ... |
Author: | graham in aus [ Wed May 16, 2007 2:46 pm ] |
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Ian, just make sure it's not an LSD! I think they have a circlip somewhere? I seem to recall you don't know the history of this motor / box? If it is an LSD, I'll swap ya!! ![]() Graham ![]() |
Author: | graham in aus [ Wed May 16, 2007 2:51 pm ] |
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Forget that! The LSD outputs don't even have the bolt! Doh! ![]() ![]() |
Author: | sports850 [ Wed May 16, 2007 2:51 pm ] |
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Ha , yeah I already checked the diff when I had it apart Graham , especially when I saw it was a mk2 S box . |
Author: | drmini in aust [ Wed May 16, 2007 5:39 pm ] |
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I always Loctite those 2 bolts, they have a habit of coming loose. My other beef is the rubber washer thingys that go behind these bolts to keep oil in, are allergic to oil. Bloody aftermarket crap... ![]() ![]() |
Author: | Mick [ Wed May 16, 2007 5:52 pm ] |
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Apart from the value, why do people like steel unis so much? Are there any positives over pot joints? |
Author: | DOZ [ Wed May 16, 2007 6:05 pm ] |
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The reason that I have them on the turbo engine is to enable quick engine removal (you don't have to drop a balljoint). Trouble is, I haven't removed it in 10 years! I prefer pot joints for a daily. Daniel |
Author: | doogie [ Wed May 16, 2007 6:30 pm ] |
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Mick wrote: Apart from the value, why do people like steel unis so much? Are there any positives over pot joints?
Mick, there a lot stronger than pot joints, i have steel uni's in my MK1 (naturally) and after 7 hard years of tarmac motorkhanaing & road use i've have'nt had a single failure, pot joints have been known to crack & open up under accelration, i know it happened to my father out-law, he thought his clutch was RS. Doogie |
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