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Thinking about buying an 850

1. Value in good restored condition

2. Pros Cons to a more common model like cooper S

3. Is this model a collectable or not so much

4. Is this a car that is UK build or OZ

I'm talking about the YMA2S1 850 here by the way , not the YMA2S3 Morris Mini Minor which also had the 850 motor but was bascially a poverty pack mini deluxe , they didn't have the 850 interiors (850's had two tone seats and looked better than later ones) .

i think basically everything except doors and mechanisms, and windscreens??, will fit a clubman shell

Bubbacluby wrote:

i think basically everything except doors and mechanisms, and windscreens??, will fit a clubman shell

Damn it the doors i need. :cry:

do you know the original colour of this one and any details of it yet ? Best bet when you see it is get all the details off the ID plate (body number , original engine number , paint name) and I can tell you it's age etc .

Unless it's terminally rusty you should be able to find someone willing to swap a donor Clubman for the 850.

They are the Mini in it's purest form - as Issigonis intended.

Author:	Toasted [ Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:38 pm ]
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Thinking about buying an 850 but i know nothing about them. Can sombody help. 1. Value in good restored condition 2. Pros Cons to a more common model like cooper S 3. Is this model a collectable or not so much 4. Is this a car that is UK build or OZ 5. Or just ignor all the above and send me a link as to where i can read up on it. Thanks in advance.

Author:	cush [ Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:45 pm ]
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Toasted wrote: Thinking about buying an 850 you're an absolute champ... Toasted wrote: 1. Value in good restored condition Less than a cooper s but then it's cheaper to buy originally Toasted wrote: 2. Pros Cons to a more common model like cooper S it's getting more and more rarer than the rapidly increasing number of Ss these days.. less chance of having it (or your badges) nicked Toasted wrote: 3. Is this model a collectable or not so much Absolutely... everyone loves them... admit it.. Toasted wrote: 4. Is this a car that is UK build or OZ Can be UK (imported), can be the other(built here), can be both...(CKD kits manufactured in the UK and built here)

Author:	sports850 [ Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:57 pm ]
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Pro's , they are the original mini , they're basic , they're fun Con's , original trim is unnavailable , orriginal floor mats are unavailable , if original only have single leadiung shoe breaks which require more attention ,not as much power as a later mini but you get used to them , no synchro in first , gear lever is awkward for some but very direct feel .

Author:	Toasted [ Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:00 pm ]
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Sounds a bit bias but i still appreciate your help. What to look out for when purchasing. What are the rarest bits to find as this one i am yet to see, but i hear it needs a lot of TLC. In case it is not worth the resto, sorry if i offend you or anyone else. Will any of it be any good for my 78 LS. Im assuming it has Drum brakes all round, and wet suspension?

Author:	sports850 [ Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:07 pm ]
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Basically , the seats and interior trim are the hardest bits to find . All 850's were dry suspension , drum brakes all round and the drums were the single leading shoe type , not twin leading shoe like later mini's . Also look for sliding window doors and the wider number plate indent on the boot lid . I'm talking about the YMA2S1 850 here by the way , not the YMA2S3 Morris Mini Minor which also had the 850 motor but was bascially a poverty pack mini deluxe , they didn't have the 850 interiors (850's had two tone seats and looked better than later ones) .

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Author:	cush [ Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:08 pm ]
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Toasted wrote: Sounds a bit bias never...

Author:	Bubbacluby [ Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:16 pm ]
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all 850's had dry suspension umm stuff that will be good for 1275 LS i think the following bits will fit side rear windows clutch/brake mastercylinders subframes steering bits bootlid (if aussie made otherwise big no. plate holder) lights i think basically everything except doors and mechanisms, and windscreens??, will fit a clubman shell As far as i know thats what would fit if im wrong others can correct me Brenton

Author:	Toasted [ Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:18 pm ]
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sports850 wrote: I'm talking about the YMA2S1 850 here by the way , not the YMA2S3 Morris Mini Minor which also had the 850 motor but was bascially a poverty pack mini deluxe , they didn't have the 850 interiors (850's had two tone seats and looked better than later ones) . So if its not Morris Mini Minor what is it. What is the Std exterior colour/s

Author:	Toasted [ Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:20 pm ]
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Bubbacluby wrote: i think basically everything except doors and mechanisms, and windscreens??, will fit a clubman shell Damn it the doors i need.

Author:	sports850 [ Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:21 pm ]
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If it's got an 850 motor (either 8AMUH or 8YUH engine prefix) then it's either a Morris 850 (YMA2S1) or a Morris Mini Minor (YMA2S3) . Morris 850 had sliding windows and UK style boot lid , Morris Mini Minor had windup windows and the Australian style bootlid . Standard colours were varied and changed each year , do you know the original colour of this one and any details of it yet ? Best bet when you see it is get all the details off the ID plate (body number , original engine number , paint name) and I can tell you it's age etc .

Author:	sports850 [ Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:24 pm ]
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Toasted wrote: Bubbacluby wrote: i think basically everything except doors and mechanisms, and windscreens??, will fit a clubman shell Damn it the doors i need. Regardless of what doors the 850 has they will be the wrong ones for a clubman , Clubman door frames/jambs were different to round nose ones , they can be adapted to suit but it's a lot of work .

Author:	Toasted [ Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:25 pm ]
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sports850 wrote: do you know the original colour of this one and any details of it yet ? Best bet when you see it is get all the details off the ID plate (body number , original engine number , paint name) and I can tell you it's age etc . Know nothing yet, i lie i do know that the floor is rusted, go figure! Can't wait to see it, but i have to wait till it stops raining.

Author:	bnicho [ Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:33 pm ]
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What Cush hinted at (but did not say) is that many 850's have been turned into Cooper S replicas. So original 850's are hard to find. They are the Mini in it's purest form - as Issigonis intended. Yes, they are collectible, but not as sought after as the Cooper variants. IMHO more desirable than a 998 LS and provide similar performance - less weight due to basic spec and pre-pollution 850 motor has similar power to a post-76 998. Comparing 850 to LS: - Glass is the same except the doors, subframes similar (not identical but will fit). - No interior bits interchange. - Lights will not fit except headlights. - Boot lid and hinges will fit. - Doors do not interchange - Wiper mechanisms and electrics all different. - Most mechanical items will interchange, but many of them would be a downgrade in spec - smaller engine, no-synchro on first gearbox, worse brakes etc. If you are looking for a donor for the LS, you would be better off finding another Clubman, as a lot of bits simply don't fit your LS. Unless it's terminally rusty you should be able to find someone willing to swap a donor Clubman for the 850.

Author:	Toasted [ Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:48 pm ]
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bnicho wrote: Unless it's terminally rusty you should be able to find someone willing to swap a donor Clubman for the 850. Now theres a thought. I was and am looking for a clubbie and got throw this lead and found out it is a roundie now im still considering getting it to keep if its worth it and how many the boss lets me have at home. I have been looking around for a round nose to work on or vice-versa. My LS is driveable so i could get this one going then do the LS up. Wow it sound so simple.

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Author:	dove grey 64 [ Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:19 am ]
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Quote: They are the Mini in it's purest form - as Issigonis intended. exactly, i have a 63 morris 850 as a daily driver at the moment and its incredible, its a welcome change from a 1275'd mini k. if the 850 your checking out just has rusty floors its not a hard fix, and its rewarding (and costly at times) experiance, you'll be keeping a huge part of motoring history alive. if i where you, get it, store it away, but parts here and there, then oneday start restoring it.