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Author:  NAV [ Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:49 am ]
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Here i was just plodding away putting the engine in one of my clubbies when i find that the passengers side driveshaft wont fit in the pot joint. The drivers side is fine. Are there different sized pots out there?
When i had a closer look it seems like the cage for the ball bearings is too big, it will not fit even without the bearings.

What gives? or isn't?
And yes the pot was cleaned out & greased before attempted assembly.

Author:  AEG163job [ Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:18 am ]
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Weird :? Are you sure the shaft is off a Mini? Try measuring the diameter of the cage and compare & contrast with the driver's side. As far as I know, there's only one sized pot joint for the Mini, but i could be wrong.
Working on cars at 1.49am is not good for you! :wink:

Author:  NAV [ Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:31 am ]
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It looks like any other mini shaft i've seen.
The motor that was in this car went into another car no problems.
I'll check the pot for roundness later. Right now i'm really over it.

Author:  jbeenz [ Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:34 am ]
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yup, there are different sizes. not sure when/where it happens, but there are different sizes. :D good luck

Author:  NAV [ Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:38 am ]
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jbeenz wrote:
yup, there are different sizes. not sure when/where it happens, but there are different sizes. :D good luck


Hmm very interesting. My guess is it's the pots.
Time to yank the motor again.

Author:  jbeenz [ Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:43 am ]
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Yea, or you can change the pot in situ if your lazy like me! whats the engine out of? i think morris/austin(ado16) 1000's and metros have smaller pots....
somones put the wrong type in one side :)

Author:  NAV [ Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:49 am ]
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jbeenz wrote:
somones put the wrong type in one side :)


I'll measure it up before i go chasing the person i bought it off. I'm sure he'd have a spare.

Author:  minivanman [ Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:29 pm ]
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Just beware if you pull the pot off with a full sump, it won't be full for long!

100% there are at least two sizes for the pots and cages, I think the balls are a different size too! The bigger cage won't even fit in the pot, even without the balls if I recall correctly.

Author:  NAV [ Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:43 pm ]
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minivanman wrote:
Just beware if you pull the pot off with a full sump, it won't be full for long!


Already had that covered

minivanman wrote:
100% there are at least two sizes for the pots and cages, I think the balls are a different size too! The bigger cage won't even fit in the pot, even without the balls if I recall correctly.


Exactly the problem i have. Either i have odd sized driveshafts or pots.

Time to get greasy again.

Author:  minivanman [ Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:09 pm ]
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The drive shafts are the same (pot joint dirve shafts), just the pot, the cage and I'll call it the inner cage that goes on the end of the driveshaft.

Don't forget you can use some gladwrap to hold the balls in the cage when fitting them, it breaks down safely. (someone had this in another post).

Check the other side for movement to ensure you don't have mixed sizes - the small cage in the big pot and vice versa.

Author:  NAV [ Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:10 pm ]
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Ok heres the scoop. When the shafts get re-conditioned they put a larger cage on with and bore the pot out and re-harden it.
So i had a reconditioned driveshaft that came with the car and original pot that came on an engine i bought elswhere.
I went and visited Matt Read who had a suitable pot to replace mine.

All info courtesy of Matt Read. Champion bloke.

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