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Author:  mrcooms [ Mon Dec 13, 2004 8:36 pm ]
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after emptying my radiator and flushing it tonight i am still finding the water is still very brown as arron has seen. I have recently had my radiator re-cored and still the fluid turns brown. by the time the i had filled the radiator up again the coolant was already turing brown. is there any possibility that is is my head gasket, i hope not . Wat eslse could be the cause of this should i leave it for a week and flush it out again
Author:  drmini in aust [ Mon Dec 13, 2004 8:45 pm ]
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Although you have had the rad done, there is probably a shitload of rust and muck in the bottom of the block.
There's a drain plug near the clutch slave cylinder on some blocks, dunno about yours. Anyhow they are usually clagged up too.
Only cure really is keep draining and refilling with water until it runs clear. Then put coolant or ethylene glycol (antifreeze) in it. I use the Nulon concentrated antifreeze, about 33% mix.
Redline `water wetter' is supposed to be great stuff too, but I've not seen it yet. 8)
Author:  13secmini [ Mon Dec 13, 2004 8:57 pm ]
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dr, can you just disconnect the rad from the engine, then start it up and pump the crap water/rust out the engine until it runs hot then shut it down??? then refill with nice new coolant and repeat till it comes out clean??
Author:  mrcooms [ Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:03 pm ]
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Thanks Doc ill keep reflushing. I had a slight scare though when i emptied it out for the first time though cos i found oil in the fluid. half an hour later i realised i had emptied it ino a pan that still had a bit of oil as it is my oil pan. :oops: :oops:
Author:  drmini in aust [ Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:07 pm ]
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Brad,
Problem is, there is a lot of water/rust/muck sitting below the pump level.
Easiest I find is leave the bottom hose a bit loose on the pump, fill it up, run for a minute with the cap off, pull the hose off and let it drain, repeat exercise until water is clean. Don't forget to tighten the bloody clamp before you drive off... :shock:
Author:  aaron [ Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:34 pm ]
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There is no easy way of cleaing it, as has been stated here already, do it over and over again until it runs clear. You can also put a radiator cleaner thru it, (i know there are varying veiws on them) But patience it'll run clear eventually.

Cheers

Aaron
Author:  gafmo [ Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:21 pm ]
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Don't for get the heater :!: if you have one
Author:  Chris [ Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:37 pm ]
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aaron wrote:
There is no easy way of cleaing it, as has been stated here already, do it over and over again until it runs clear. You can also put a radiator cleaner thru it, (i know there are varying veiws on them) But patience it'll run clear eventually.

Cheers

Aaron


Ok, the best way is this. Disconnect a heater hose at the motor and open the heater valve. Take the radiator cap off and put the water supply hose into the heater hose. Turn the water on and watch all the crap come out of the radiator. This flushes through the heater, the block and the head.
Author:  gafmo [ Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:41 pm ]
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You just can't forget about the heater...when its not use'd for some time that where it will build up :idea:
I found this out :!:
Author:  redfive [ Tue Dec 14, 2004 9:29 am ]
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Just keep flushing it!

I flushed mine 5 or 6 times, and it finally doesn't turn the coolant brown.

That was 5 or 6 times over 6 or so months as well.

If you have a heater, make sure you flush that. I took mine out and ran a hose through it as fast as it would go.

One technique I wouldn't recommend is driving your car so that it overheats and boils your coolant. Doesn't do your engine much good, but helps you flush more crud out :).
Author:  simon k [ Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:32 pm ]
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pull the radiator and thermostat out, put the termostat housing back on, stick the garden hose in the top rad hose and do up the clamp, turn the water on and wait till it's not coming out brown from the bottom rad hose anymore. Do the same with the radiator, and also fill it with water and put a hand over the inlet and outlet and shake the crap out of it, drain, repeat, drain, repeat etc. etc.

then put it all back together, go for a drive and you'll find it starts turning brown again - it's a cast iron block, it's designed to rust! I've had them come back from reconditioners after sitting in the acid tank for a couple of days still with rust flaking from the water galleries
Author:  Chris [ Tue Dec 14, 2004 8:59 pm ]
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redfive wrote:
Just keep flushing it!

I flushed mine 5 or 6 times, and it finally doesn't turn the coolant brown.

That was 5 or 6 times over 6 or so months as well.

If you have a heater, make sure you flush that. I took mine out and ran a hose through it as fast as it would go. .


If you use the method I described it flushes the whole system and everything comes out the radiator filler hole. In days past Wynns made a mixer that combined compressed air and water to agitate the rust and move it. An adaptor to do this would be easy to make and most probably worth while. A regulator to control the air pressure would be needed.
Author:  drmini in aust [ Tue Dec 14, 2004 9:01 pm ]
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Once it's clean by whatever means, FFS put some coolant or inhibitor in it. Or else it'll be brown and cruddy again, in no time. :cry:
Author:  mrcooms [ Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:19 pm ]
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yeah doc ill put some rust inhibitor in once its all clean. wat a coincidence i won some at the last raffle at MCC meeting :P

thanks guys
Author:  68matic [ Wed Dec 15, 2004 4:46 pm ]
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mrcooms look above you, you may see the light
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