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ALCHEMY
In this series titled “Alchemy”, which means turning metal into gold, we will review cars and drivers who helped to make MINI a legend.

The Broadspeed.

This months review is of the Broadspeed Mini, a vehicle that was stylish and well equipped, but expensive at the time of production.

These cars were originally produced in limited numbers in the UK by Ralph Broad, who had successfully modified and raced Minis prior to designing this fastback model. Its distinguishing feature was the extended Kamm tail, an essential item aiding aerodynamics at that time. The roof and rear end of the shell were fabricated from fibreglass and were reinforced with steel frame and inserts to give a strong and rigid body. The result was a car with all the Mini traits and a lot less weight.

As a road car it was under-rated by the motoring writers at the release due to bad finish and assembly – those poor souls also suggested that it was unattractive. Some of the criticisms were justified on the British cars, but when Brian Foley undertook local production the quality problems were successfully addressed.

The Foley-produced cars began with a Deluxe based unit as an entry model, followed by a 2+2 S version using Cooper S equipment. The Super Deluxe came with engine modifications such as a re-worked head (10.5:1), big cam and twin 1 ½” SU’s, providing 90BHP and a rev limit of 8000rpm up from 6500. New Broadspeeds carried a full BMC factory warranty unless they were modified.

this Model with the bad attitude was the GTS. This car stretched Mini performance one notch higher – there were no apologies regarding noise, as this, combined with limpet-like grip and savage acceleration, made for one dynamic rocket ship. Here was a serious performance car that was accused of being overpowered as a road car, but, as a racing car, set new lap records all over Australia and its success became legendary.

There are very few of these cars left now, and they remain one of the Mini’s most valuable variants.

Performance of the Broadspeed.
Top speed. 103.8 mph
¼ Mile. 18 sec.
1st Gear. 32 mph (7000)
2nd 52 mph
3rd. 74 mph
0 - 30mph 3.9 sec
0 – 40 5.9
0 – 50 8.0
0 – 60 10.6
0 – 70 14.8
Engine. 1275cc
Comp Ratio. 10.1 to 1
Power. 91 bhp
Torque. 65 ft/lbs 3000rpm.
Wheels. Minilite 4 ½”
Tyres. Dunlop SP41

On the dashboard, the matching 150mph speedometer and 10,000 rpm rev-counter indicate that this was no ordinary Mini. Down in the “herbs” department nestles a 1275 Cooper S power unit. For an extra $250 you could get a Broadspeed tune. This meant a modified head with bigger exhaust valves, ported & polished and a 10.5:1 compression. There was also a special exhaust manifold and a Broadspeed road/race camshaft. Twin exhaust pipes poked out the back, one on each side.

Then there was the Broadspeed G.T.S. This was Laurie Stewart’s Broadspeed GTS race car as advertised in “Sports Car World” in 1967. Officially timed at 127.84mph at Bathurst during Easter – the Broadspeed has proved to be the most successful sports racing closed car throughout the 1966 / 67 season. Unbeaten in this category for outright placings, it has also proved quicker on most Australian circuits than any improved production Mini. The car has a 1365cc fully developed engine with 46 IDA Weber carburettor, five speed close ratio gearbox, limited slip diff, Minilite wheels etc. Overall weight only 10cwt. Fully rebuilt and ready to race. Price complete $3400. Finance arranged. I hope you find this series interesting, as we have a few more specials to look back on in forthcoming issues. Darryl Osborne.

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very inneresting
but im not sure if i like the back of it
not as nice as a normal mini

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You would have one if you could though..I know I would.

There really is not much on the Net about Mini @ Bathurst is ther

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hmm i thought the mini did really well at bathurst a couple of times

hey you know that 'fastest mini in australia'
would that be in terms of 1960's

how would it fair with some mini mods (at least A series) these days,
eg. Doc's

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I dont think we are doing a great deal differnt to those days now..Except for a few modern additional Pulsar dizzy and all

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 Post subject: Foley Stewart Broadspeed
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Wow, what a great first post on the fred I suggested. I followed the exploits of the Broadspeed in the 60's and will never forget the thing at the bottom of the straight at Oran Park with both rear wheels at least a foot off the ground under braking after reaching some incredible terminal velocity.....sweet......now owned by Padstow.

The thing with Broadspeeds is that the bonding of fibreglass to metal didn't always last forever and was prone to corrosion... :cry:

But....wonderful vehicle....Cheers, Gaf

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you'r a fifty Sixty child...its funny really.....we chat and chat and have no idea who we are talking to...Would have loved to been around back then.
Seeing Mini's and Broadspeed going up against the big yanks tanks and Ozzy creation...Come on then if you were around back then what did you experiance that was special.. 8)

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gafmo wrote:
you'r a fifty Sixty child...its funny really.....we chat and chat and have no idea who we are talking to...Would have loved to been around back then.

Seeing Mini's and Broadspeed going up against the big yanks tanks and Ozzy creation...Come on then if you were around back then what did you experiance that was special.. 8)


Hey Gaf, we didn't appreciate it all that much at the time, but special was the Oran Park nite races (Big Pete Mustang etc)

all manner of Mini creations including Leffler, Manticus lightweight specials, Broadspeed and heaps of other Mini stars.

Amaroo, Catalina Park......Series Production and Improved production where the Minis ruled! (didn't always win but usually stole the show).

I remember the mighty Brock A30 first Oran Park appearance....

All the engine developments that everyone just buys off the shelf these days....man....we were excited to here of so and so running a new cam, bigger carb etc

Biggest thrills would have to have been the Tasman Series (Warwick Farm for me - lived at L'pool) and all the international drivers battling our best (Matich, Bartlett etc)

F5000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that means a BIG special mention

I s'pose the halcyon days of Bathurst and the great production car battles in the early days....imagine cheering for cars in all the classes.....

Being booked by a Highway Patrol Cooper S and talking Minis :-( (NOT)

I could go on and on .....I consider myself very lucky to have experienced those days 8)

(anyone else??? Doc???)

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I used to go sit at Creek corner, Warwick Farm, and watch Manton, Foley, Don Holland, John Leffler and all trying to outbrake each other.
Somewhere.. I have a pic of Manton's? Mini with both rear wheels in th air.
Then they closed the track.... :cry:

Same thing happened to Catalina Park, Katoomba. Driving that was a buzz, particularly the Tunnel... :P

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I used to go sit at Creek corner, Warwick Farm, and watch Manton, Foley, Don Holland, John Leffler and all trying to outbrake each other.
Somewhere.. I have a pic of Manton's? Mini with both rear wheels in th air.
Then they closed the track.... :cry:

Same thing happened to Catalina Park, Katoomba. Driving that was a buzz, particularly the Tunnel... :P


Ah Ah!! so the Doc was the one with the Bugle at Creek!!!! I refused to go around there on safety grounds (Matich was pulling about 180 MPH on the straight with nowhere to go but sharp right!!...riggggghhhhtttt :roll:).

The tunnel of love was first conquered AFAIR by Moffatt who imported a left hand drive Stang?? so he could go closer to the sleepers than any one else.

Very sad when the Gee Gee people had finally had enough of racing cars "crossing" their turf. I also attended quite a few "club" racing days on the short track. Terrific, as it was even closer to me than Oran or Amaroo.

Did you ever go and check out Silverdale Doc? I used to love the drive thru the countryside and the neat little pub when you got thirsty :shock:

Memories are good to have sometime.....now....where have I left mine!! :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Full On!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:36 pm 
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Hey Gaf, we didn't appreciate it all that much at the time, but special was the Oran Park nite races (Big Pete Mustang etc)

all manner of Mini creations including Leffler, Manticus lightweight specials, Broadspeed and heaps of other Mini stars.

Amaroo, Catalina Park......Series Production and Improved production where the Minis ruled! (didn't always win but usually stole the show).

I remember the mighty Brock A30 first Oran Park appearance....

All the engine developments that everyone just buys off the shelf these days....man....we were excited to here of so and so running a new cam, bigger carb etc

Biggest thrills would have to have been the Tasman Series (Warwick Farm for me - lived at L'pool) and all the international drivers battling our best (Matich, Bartlett etc)

F5000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that means a BIG special mention

I s'pose the halcyon days of Bathurst and the great production car battles in the early days....imagine cheering for cars in all the classes.....

Being booked by a Highway Patrol Cooper S and talking Minis :-( (NOT)

I could go on and on .....I consider myself very lucky to have experienced those days 8)

(anyone else??? Doc???)


Yes, it was a great time to be around. I remember seeing my first Cooper in Cronulla's main street and just drooling over it. Shortly after my mate bought one but I never did for some reason which I cannot remember. I got chased over the Razorback in fog one night by a Cooper S and at Camden he (Policeman) pulled me over. I was coming home from Wagga on my first leave and being in army uniform he let me go with a warning to stay on the right side of the centre lines.

The Toby Lee series at Oran park was awesome. The cars were technoligically suspect to say the least. This was what made it such good racing as none of the drivers ever knew if the brakes were going to work or a wheel braeak etc. The Studebakers at Bathurst always broke their wheels! These cars were supposed to be series production with limited mods but I know of one bloke (still around0 who bought his car over for a dyno tune and it was down on HP in a big way. He bought it back the next day and it had heaps. It took him a couple of days after he won the race to make it legal.

We put a Peugot motor in a Morris Minor and went out and blew the doors off every Falcon GT we could find...it was a real blast. No speed limits to worry about then. Motor mags did their speed tests on the Heathcote road as it was the sticks in those days.

How about a Sports Sedan with trade plates on it being taken for a run on the road to see how it went? I'm not saying where as it could identify the person concerned and he is a law abiding citizen these days and much respected.

My biggest thrill was seeing the rally minis with brakes glowing red hot going down Wombeyan Caves road flat out. The inner guards looked like they had a fire under them. Bondy ran over a wombat one night in an S and he reckoned it got up and walked away. I could go on for hours. The first time I went really quick on dirt was in a Mini Monte with Bob Holden in his mini van in Sunny Corner State Forest. Man there were some big drops off those roads! I had been in there during the night and never worried until I went through in daylight. Never went back there again.

Silverdale and old Robo (the owner). I was in Cronulla Car Club and we ran a night hill climb there. Had wires running out of every gum tree in the place. That was after we ran a night climb at Amaroo and Kevin Bartlett was invited to run. We arranged for him to borrow a Monaro (I think) and he embarassed the owner in the first run with his time. Never let a professional driver into your car at an event if you do not want to be embarassed.

Catalina. No wonder they closed that place. You would start a lap in sunshine and by the time you completed it you needed fog lights to see where you were going and the lap scorers had no idea who was going by. That was not to bad but the windscreen went foggy and...well crap happens. it was the most scary place to drive on that I can recall this side of some rally roads.

CAMS tried to ban rallies in the late sixties because we were stirring up all the farmers around Windsor, Richmond etc and they called a meeting at the Leichhardt Town Hall. What they didn't count on were the three thousand people who turned up and blocked Norton Street (I think) and wanted to argue the toss about the ban. We soon got our rallies back! I knew a bloke who was held up by a farmer one night with a shotgun because he was peed off with all the maniacs running around and disturbing his sleep or chooks or something else.

Memories. I am blessed with having a great life in cars and motor sport and we will never see this time again. To many laws and do gooders though in some instances it is most probably needed. I hope you have enjoyed reading my memories as I have in recalling them.


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9YaTaH wrote:

Hey Gaf, we didn't appreciate it all that much at the time, but special was the Oran Park nite races (Big Pete Mustang etc)

all manner of Mini creations including Leffler, Manticus lightweight specials, Broadspeed and heaps of other Mini stars.

Amaroo, Catalina Park......Series Production and Improved production where the Minis ruled! (didn't always win but usually stole the show).

I remember the mighty Brock A30 first Oran Park appearance....

All the engine developments that everyone just buys off the shelf these days....man....we were excited to here of so and so running a new cam, bigger carb etc

Biggest thrills would have to have been the Tasman Series (Warwick Farm for me - lived at L'pool) and all the international drivers battling our best (Matich, Bartlett etc)

F5000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that means a BIG special mention

I s'pose the halcyon days of Bathurst and the great production car battles in the early days....imagine cheering for cars in all the classes.....

Being booked by a Highway Patrol Cooper S and talking Minis :-( (NOT)

I could go on and on .....I consider myself very lucky to have experienced those days 8)

(anyone else??? Doc???)


Yes, it was a great time to be around. I remember seeing my first Cooper in Cronulla's main street and just drooling over it. Shortly after my mate bought one but I never did for some reason which I cannot remember. I got chased over the Razorback in fog one night by a Cooper S and at Camden he (Policeman) pulled me over. I was coming home from Wagga on my first leave and being in army uniform he let me go with a warning to stay on the right side of the centre lines.

The Toby Lee series at Oran park was awesome. The cars were technoligically suspect to say the least. This was what made it such good racing as none of the drivers ever knew if the brakes were going to work or a wheel braeak etc. The Studebakers at Bathurst always broke their wheels! These cars were supposed to be series production with limited mods but I know of one bloke (still around0 who bought his car over for a dyno tune and it was down on HP in a big way. He bought it back the next day and it had heaps. It took him a couple of days after he won the race to make it legal.

We put a Peugot motor in a Morris Minor and went out and blew the doors off every Falcon GT we could find...it was a real blast. No speed limits to worry about then. Motor mags did their speed tests on the Heathcote road as it was the sticks in those days.

How about a Sports Sedan with trade plates on it being taken for a run on the road to see how it went? I'm not saying where as it could identify the person concerned and he is a law abiding citizen these days and much respected.

My biggest thrill was seeing the rally minis with brakes glowing red hot going down Wombeyan Caves road flat out. The inner guards looked like they had a fire under them. Bondy ran over a wombat one night in an S and he reckoned it got up and walked away. I could go on for hours. The first time I went really quick on dirt was in a Mini Monte with Bob Holden in his mini van in Sunny Corner State Forest. Man there were some big drops off those roads! I had been in there during the night and never worried until I went through in daylight. Never went back there again.

Silverdale and old Robo (the owner). I was in Cronulla Car Club and we ran a night hill climb there. Had wires running out of every gum tree in the place. That was after we ran a night climb at Amaroo and Kevin Bartlett was invited to run. We arranged for him to borrow a Monaro (I think) and he embarassed the owner in the first run with his time. Never let a professional driver into your car at an event if you do not want to be embarassed.

Catalina. No wonder they closed that place. You would start a lap in sunshine and by the time you completed it you needed fog lights to see where you were going and the lap scorers had no idea who was going by. That was not to bad but the windscreen went foggy and...well crap happens. it was the most scary place to drive on that I can recall this side of some rally roads.

CAMS tried to ban rallies in the late sixties because we were stirring up all the farmers around Windsor, Richmond etc and they called a meeting at the Leichhardt Town Hall. What they didn't count on were the three thousand people who turned up and blocked Norton Street (I think) and wanted to argue the toss about the ban. We soon got our rallies back! I knew a bloke who was held up by a farmer one night with a shotgun because he was peed off with all the maniacs running around and disturbing his sleep or chooks or something else.

Memories. I am blessed with having a great life in cars and motor sport and we will never see this time again. To many laws and do gooders though in some instances it is most probably needed. I hope you have enjoyed reading my memories as I have in recalling them.


So you are related the rallying Guests of today?? :lol:

Great reminiscences "guest"...why not choose a funny handle and drop in from time to time with a few more stories....

Bob Holden.....hmmmm wonder if you can confirm the story about Col and Bob's super tuned engine swapped out at Bathurst that year where they embarrassed the international tuners and got to drive their tuned version. :wink:

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hmm i thought the mini did really well at bathurst a couple of times

hey you know that 'fastest mini in australia'
would that be in terms of 1960's

how would it fair with some mini mods (at least A series) these days,
eg. Doc's


The cars at Bathurst were supposedly standard production so were not really that quick though it was possible to homologate special cars with a production run of 1000 (?) units. As far as mods went for all out racing Vizard's ideas are not far removed from what we do these days. Scatter cams are an advance (?) and bigger pistons are readily available where in days gone by the right piston was hard to get. I think from memory if over 1400 was wanted then Triumph pistons were used IIRC. High ratio rockers are used where in the sixties and seventies they certainly weren't common if they were used at all. 120HP was not unheard of then by top tuners. These motors had been used in other competition besides in minis so a fair bit was known about making them go quicker.


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9YaTaH wrote:

So you are related the rallying Guests of today?? :lol:

Great reminiscences "guest"...why not choose a funny handle and drop in from time to time with a few more stories....

Bob Holden.....hmmmm wonder if you can confirm the story about Col and Bob's super tuned engine swapped out at Bathurst that year where they embarrassed the international tuners and got to drive their tuned version. :wink:


Sorry about that I thought I was logged in. As to the Holden/Bond story, no I can't recall it. I am sure Bondy would if you asked him. a very approachable bloke or used to be.

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Hey Guys,

OK I admit it - I'm an old bloke too :roll:

I can remember as a kid going to a shopping centre in England with my Dad and brothers and seeing a Monte Carlo Rally Mini. I loved it.

I've been hooked on the little buggers ever since :D :D :D :D

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