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Author:  Gezo [ Sun Jan 09, 2005 2:29 pm ]
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Hi,
Does anybody know if an 1100S short journal crank and internals will bolt straight into a Mk1 Cooper S block.
Thanks

Author:  brickworx [ Sun Jan 09, 2005 6:13 pm ]
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Yes will fit but will have to play around with thrust washers, and end float

Author:  drmini in aust [ Sun Jan 09, 2005 6:20 pm ]
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brickworx wrote:
Yes will fit but will have to play around with thrust washers, and end float

You can get std, +.003" and +.030" thrusts. But the +.030" are NLA according to many sources, including Karcraft. Vandervell stopped making them.
If you got 'em, hoard 'em! :P :wink:

Author:  Gezo [ Sun Jan 09, 2005 8:38 pm ]
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Hi,
Thanks for your knowledge.

Author:  Gezo [ Mon Jan 24, 2005 7:58 pm ]
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Do the 1100S crank and internals also fit inside the Mark 2 Cooper S block?
Thanks Again

Author:  drmini in aust [ Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:06 pm ]
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Yes. Mk1 & Mk2 S main journal widths are the same, so the above applies.
The opposite applies too. I run a Mk2 S crank & rods in an 1100S block. Again, just need to play with the thrust washer thicknesses to get the end float right.. :wink:

Author:  Gezo [ Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:13 pm ]
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Thanks Dr again

Author:  1380 yellow devil [ Tue Jan 25, 2005 9:00 am ]
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drmini in aust wrote:
Yes. Mk1 & Mk2 S main journal widths are the same, so the above applies.
The opposite applies too. I run a Mk2 S crank & rods in an 1100S block. Again, just need to play with the thrust washer thicknesses to get the end float right.. :wink:


Thats good to know I wil do that with my Next Motor. :lol:

Author:  BLACKRZ_667 [ Wed Jan 26, 2005 4:38 pm ]
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Hey Guys
I was just wondering what i should do to my mini clubman that will make it preform better and what price i would be looking at
thanks

Author:  Gezo [ Fri Feb 04, 2005 9:05 am ]
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Hi,
Another crank question.
I was reading an old mini magazine and it said,
If you use a LS1275 big journal crank (1.75 big ends), offset machine the big ends down to 1.625 diameter use this in a Cooper S block you will get an 1/8 of a stroke. Does this simply mean you just grind your LS crank down to 1.625 on the big ends and put it in a Cooper S block and you get an 1/8 stroke.
Thanks

Author:  drmini in aust [ Fri Feb 04, 2005 1:36 pm ]
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Gezo wrote:
Hi,
Another crank question.
I was reading an old mini magazine and it said,
If you use a LS1275 big journal crank (1.75 big ends), offset machine the big ends down to 1.625 diameter use this in a Cooper S block you will get an 1/8 of a stroke. Does this simply mean you just grind your LS crank down to 1.625 on the big ends and put it in a Cooper S block and you get an 1/8 stroke.
Thanks

You need to offset grind the big ends to 1.625". This means they are set up in the grinder to take 99% of this metal off the inside of the pin, and bugger all off the outside. This moves the reground pin's stroke radius outwards.
Then you use S rods, but they are too wide and must be narrowed to fit.
And the pistons will now stick out of the block. So you need to get `stroker' pistons with a shorter pin to crown height. Sometimes you can machine the piston top of stock pistons, if thick enough. Not always.

Whether a 1275S block or later 1275 block doesn't matter. They are pretty much the same deck height.

Author:  Gezo [ Fri Feb 04, 2005 10:23 pm ]
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Thanks again Dr.
Is this worth doing, and what sort of power gain is there.
Thanks

Author:  drmini in aust [ Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:04 am ]
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Gezo wrote:
Thanks again Dr.
Is this worth doing, and what sort of power gain is there.
Thanks

You do gain torque, but I think it reduces revability. Crank is a bit more `whippy' than stock due to the extra stroke..
I'm tossing up now whether to bore my auto block to 1360, or stroke it to 1405. :?
I'll probably stay at 1360, I've got Hypatec pistons already. 8)

Author:  1310/71 [ Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:11 am ]
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drmini in aust wrote:
Gezo wrote:
Thanks again Dr.
Is this worth doing, and what sort of power gain is there.
Thanks

You do gain torque, but I think it reduces revability. Crank is a bit more `whippy' than stock due to the extra stroke..
I'm tossing up now whether to bore my auto block to 1360, or stroke it to 1405. :?
I'll probably stay at 1360, I've got Hypatec pistons already. 8)


Careful Doc - you're giving away a few Wakefield Park secrets there. Now the guys will know what you have up your sleeve :D :wink:

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