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Author:  mattsmadmini [ Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:09 pm ]
Post subject:  What Carby to suit?

hey all, just trying to decide what carby would best suit a 1098 that has LCB's a hot little cam and a 1.75" exhaust?

cheers,
Matt

Author:  BALLISTIC [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:24 am ]
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it all depends on how hot the cam is, how extensivly the head has been "tickled", how far the bores have been opened up? :)

Author:  mattsmadmini [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:16 am ]
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well the cam is a GR RE13 number, havent touched the head or the bores yet, just going for something that i could get used to driving in for the time being...

Author:  drmini in aust [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:46 am ]
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A single 1-3/4 gets my vote- either an HS6 or the later HIF44.
It will outperform twin 1-1/4s if on a decent manifold (eg Russell Engineering 7", or a Minispares one).

Author:  BALLISTIC [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:05 am ]
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if you are going to eventually build it into something a bit wilder in the future or even go for a 1275 with some mods id go the 1"3/4 (hif44) with either minispares water heated manifold or the G.R. manifold (as mentioned by drmini aust). But as it stands now.....with only the cam and std other bits a freshend up 1"1/2 on a water heated manifold would do just fine.

Author:  mason [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:43 am ]
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HIF 44 Great carb :wink:

Author:  Matt68 [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:57 am ]
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Go the twins, but remember the stock BMC / BL inlet manifold for twins was really really crap. If you binned it and went for a maniflow inlet, you would have a set up suitable for 998s to 1275s.

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I love my twins! :wink:


That being said, a single 1 1/2" or 1 3/4" on a good (GR) manifold would do a pretty good job and be a lot cheaper!


Matt

Author:  peterw [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:50 am ]
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On an 1100 I would vote for single 1-3/4. Set it and forget it.

Single 1-3/4 flow rate is almost identical to 2 x 1-1/4's.

Pete

Author:  sports850 [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:53 am ]
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I'm with Matt , I love twins though they have to be in good condition , but for an every day car a single will be easier especially if you don't know how to tune twins .

Author:  1018cc [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:54 am ]
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I like the look of twins, which is why I went for them. PITA when my accel cable broke the other day and I only had makeshift tools :x

But I still love them!

Author:  drmini in aust [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:19 am ]
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peterw wrote:
Single 1-3/4 flow rate is almost identical to 2 x 1-1/4's.

Pete

This is a common fallacy, you can't just add the area of the twins and compare tha total to a single, because the twins' flow is intermittent- one sucks for 2 cylinders in succession, then it rests while the other sucks.
ie. firing order is 1-3-4-2 repeat, transpose 1 place to the right and it's 3-4-2-1 repeat.
so 3 and 3 suck, then 2 and 1 on the other carb.

Vizard covered this in his book but I don't remember chapter and verse.

A single 1-3/4 on a good manifold will way outperform twin 1-1/4s.
Each cylinder sees the area of a 1-3/4 carb, not a 1-1/4 one.

The balance pipe on a twin SU manifold doesn't contribute much flow at all, it's just there to stop the SU piston fluttering (dropping) in between cylinder intake strokes.

Author:  Spaceboy [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:32 pm ]
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twin hs2's or hs4's.

no lean 1st and 4th cylinder like with single carbs and probably better fuel economy and response with hs2's.

Author:  cush [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:46 pm ]
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drmini in aust wrote:
Vizard covered this in his book but I don't remember chapter and verse.


:P

Author:  Drekkus [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:14 pm ]
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drmini in aust wrote:
A single 1-3/4 gets my vote- either an HS6 or the later HIF44.
It will outperform twin 1-1/4s if on a decent manifold (eg Russell Engineering 7", or a Minispares one).


I've just picked up a nice reconditioned HIF44 which I'm going to try setup on my 1100.Just got to try to source some needles in Adelaide to try out.The one in it (BBC) is going to be too rich I'd image. 1100 bored out 20 thou,295 head with oversize valves, 3 in 1 extractors , metro inlet , pulsar dizzy, pity its still only a standard cam at the moment.

Author:  min13k [ Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:44 pm ]
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i can recomend a HIF 44 good carby bowl is under the carby so during hard cornering it is less likely to starve for fuel also it was on a 1380 and it was good for cruiseing and putting the boot in
makka

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