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Author:  Ben_Aus_Mini [ Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:30 am ]
Post subject:  Clear coat
Hi,

My mini is a 64 850 in Porcelain Green. painted about 6 layers in acrylic acrylic lacquer, with no clear coat. It looks (and feels) very smooth but sometimes (when I parked in my garage) I can see swirls everywhere.

After I did some research, I am thinking to put a clear coat on the mini by visiting a local smash repair shop.

1st reason is that I want a very high gloss finish.

2nd is that I think this could remove the swirls

So, what I wanted to know is:
- if the clear could actually remove the swirls on the paint?
- if it doesn't remove them, do I atcually need to get the swirls away first before I apply the clear coat to achieve a mirror finish?
-Does clear coat give you a mirror finish better than just polishing and waxing alone?
-Does polish takes away paint layers, so that means you can't polish often?
-Can you wax often as wax is a protector ONLY.

As I know from what I researched/read, after the clear coat is applied, there would be some sort of "orange peel". Then the steps to achieve a mirror finsih would be as follows:

0) Apply clear coat (as mine doens't have it)
1) use 1500 grit wet sand to remove orange peel
2) machine polish with a cutting compound to remove the 1500 grit sanding scratches
3) machine polish (with ultra fine polish) again for a wet looking/mirror finish
4) wax/sealer to protect

So is clear coat the way to go and should I tell the guy at the shop to do steps 0 - 3 or 0 - 4 from above?

Any good people to recommend in Sydney to do this?

Correct me if I am wrong with anything, thanks. :)
Author:  adnams4ever [ Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:11 am ]
Post subject:  Clear coat
Hi,

I would recomend that you get it polished. If you put Acrylic Clear on it you will end up with same result (swirls) after a while. Waste of $$.
I would stay away from applying 2 Pack Clear also becuse of the poor adhesion to Acrylic finishes.

Through my contacts I will try & find someone that will do a quality polish job for you.

Acrylic by nature is very easy to scratch every care should be taken (especially when washing) when looking after the surface.

Chris.
Author:  Ziegech [ Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:45 am ]
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hi im not good with the details of painting but this is my car after we finished the clear coat all arylic Image
Author:  gafmo [ Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:49 am ]
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the swirls are eather from the sanding or the final polish.
Get the body shop to give it a good polish is a better idea :wink: and cheaper
Author:  Fat Boy Dave [ Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:49 am ]
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I agree don't mix acrylics and 2 packs. I had a car that had acrylic clear coats and after a few years it started to peel, not to mention that high pressure hoses and car washes were a definite no go.
Author:  minimetoy [ Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:47 pm ]
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Ben,

Don't mix acrylic and two pac, you will find in a few years time your paintwork will craze and the whole car will have to be re-done. Acrylic is soft and 2pac is very hard this will cause the carzing.

As far as having it MACHINE polished by a professional, make sure that they are aware it is acrylic and they do not burn through the paint.

Dan
Author:  Morris 1100 [ Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:57 pm ]
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Get it polished. Clear is an invention of the devil. :evil:
Author:  Blokeinamoke [ Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:19 pm ]
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I reckon you could buy a lot of elbow grease for the cost of your clear coat.

All the elbow grease you saved with one of those magic cutting compounds and you would be in better shape.
Author:  Gadgets mini [ Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:25 pm ]
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Morris 1100 wrote:
Get it polished. Clear is an invention of the devil. :evil:


Ahhhha since when did Mr Lucas invent clear coat and does it emit smoke when it breaks :wink:
Author:  Blokeinamoke [ Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:43 pm ]
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Gadgets mini wrote:
Morris 1100 wrote:
Get it polished. Clear is an invention of the devil. :evil:


Ahhhha since when did Mr Lucas invent clear coat and does it emit smoke when it breaks :wink:

Dont rubbish Lucas - it saved my car from being taken - if my electrics had worked who knows how far they would have got :P - I need a sticker - Car security by Lucas
Author:  gafmo [ Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:06 pm ]
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Blokeinamoke wrote:
Car security by Lucas

:wink: :lol:
Author:  britishvita [ Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:02 am ]
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The swirls are actually in or on the acrylic coat, they may have been created by the person who sprayed the car and polished it after. All you really need is a good machine polish using a rotary polisher. I've sent you a PM with some details .
Author:  gafmo [ Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:18 am ]
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Better Still
Get yourself to the next avalible course...Its Free
http://www.vgautopaints.com.au/
Author:  mattsmadmini [ Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:29 am ]
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have you done the course Gaf?
Author:  gafmo [ Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:31 am ]
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Yes and I recomended it. Also a BBQ after but take your own Musted
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