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Author:  blueminivan [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Question about paint job.
I got my mini van painted about eight months ago and have been slowly putting it together since.
As with a newly painted car, you are bound to scratch it in one way or another at some time.
The first was from my eldest boy who thought helping dad dust the van with a pair of vise grips would be good. Result, inch long scratch down to the undercoat.
Second was me shutting the a door without the plastic guide blocks fitted resulting in paint of, down to the undercoat, on both the window frames and the door wells.
Thirdly was me dropping a rear side window onto the side of the rear quarter from a height of about half an inch while sizing up to fit.
This left a patch of undercoat showing.
I couldn't believe that paint could come off so easy so in my pissed off state I turned to my hilux behind me and hit it in the same way as hard as I could until it only left a mark, no scratch down to the undercoat, only a mark.
By this stage I'm thinking this paint job is really crap so I tried ringing the painter only to find their shut for Easter and after calming down never got around to calling again.

But as for today.
I locked my dog in the shed because it can get out where I've pulled my garage down only to find that when I got home that she has jumped all over it absolutely destroying the paint work on the front quarters and roof.
I mean there are no marks hardly at all, it's scratches down to the undercoat everywhere!! :evil:

Now the question I have to all of you that know a bit about auto painting is what the hell is wrong with my paint job!?!

What I am thinking is that the painter only sprayed over the top of the existing 7 yr old undercoat and the topcoat never took to it.

I need some ammo for when I ring him again so give me a few suggestions please people.

:evil: :evil:
:cry:
Damian

Sorry about the long rant. It's been on my mind for a long time.
Author:  Caponix [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:19 pm ]
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is it arcylic or 2pac paint??
Author:  stuart17 [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:53 pm ]
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Theres a couple of possabilities,
after 7 years the window for adhesion over existing primer is definatley closed, as in the topcoat wont stick, acrylic or 2 pak.
if painted without sanding new primer , also no adhesion.
if painted over poorly cleaned substraight , no adhesion
Very rarely a material problem, most of the time application problem.
Author:  blueminivan [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:59 pm ]
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It's a new Ford colour so would that make it 2 pak?
I think the old primer was for arcylic
Would you have to remove the old primer and respray with new or just sand back?
Author:  stuart17 [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:39 pm ]
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If your primer is acrylic and 2pak has been applied over it it will definatley delaminate over time.
Author:  blueminivan [ Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:59 pm ]
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Thanks guys.
Time to have a little talk to my painter!!
Author:  bill.b [ Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:37 pm ]
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can you please tell us what happens, interested to know what happens :)

bill
Author:  blueminivan [ Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:04 am ]
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Yesterday I finally got in contact with my painter and explained the situation I'm in.
He's coming around to check it out to determine which layer didn't take properly.
If it's below the original primer it's on me which is far enough but if it's any higher then I'll just have to see what he does about it.
The worst thing now is that his only employee has left to go teaching so he's shut the shop after 30yrs in the business to concentrate on his farm full time so now he probably wont be too scared about losing credibility if things turn out bad.
Oh well, if the paint job is his problem, I'm going to find out just what kind of person he really is.
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