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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:46 pm 
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i recently purchased this headlining from ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Mini-or-Leyland-Headlining-repoduction-off-white-NEW_W0QQitemZ270216687511QQihZ017QQcategoryZ6763QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

i was just wondering if headlining's are easy to install and do you have any tips or suggestions on fitting them.

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use some good glue.

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will do...will i need to adjust it in any way or will it jst fit in nicely? all my windows r out aswell...is it easier to install with the windows out?


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don't know, personally i have never done headlining, ive just been told to use some good glue after hearing some mates stories about theirs falling on their heads whilst going down the freeway :lol:
gotta change mine over soon. im pretty sure nick (1018cc) did his own and i think ash's headlining aswell?

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http://www.theminiforum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=69956&hl=headlining

just found this... seems like good help.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:51 pm 
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hey there I did have an awesome guide but im pretty sure It got left on my old pc... any way here is a pretty good link: http://www.automedia.com/Headliner_Repl ... 000717hu/1
step by step with pics not exactly the same set up as a mini but u get the idea there.

Main points to remember is to do a "dry fit" where as once you have inserted the rods (now located in the new lining) into rail go to front/back (back and forth) and use strong bulldog clips (carefull to keep to the edge that will be covered by the rubber seals, but regardless keep to the edge, to avoid stretching the fabric into the void, also you dont need to make it super tight at this point clips wont hold anyway, just get it even) as I was saying go back and forth from front to back at this point setting the lining evenly then when you are happy do the left/right direction same theory.

One you are happy with the dry fit go in same manner (front/back then left/right) and using rubber cement or contact cement with a small brush, remove the clips one by one and *evenly* tighten the lining, glue then re-clip for security (if the clip is going to stretch or damage the fabric, leave it - just make sure the glue was tacky enough to hold tight, or leave area till last if possible when lining is mostly well attached)

Just use your judgement, and keep checking it as you go it will be fine.

Let it settle in for a bit and if you have a couple creases, just use water in a spray bottle and a hair dryer or steam (moisture and heat however u wish) on the area. Have fun hope this helped!

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lilmatti_69 wrote:
will do...will i need to adjust it in any way or will it jst fit in nicely? all my windows r out aswell...is it easier to install with the windows out?


Windows out is mandatory. Make sure bows returned to their original positions. Check plastic sockets all fitted to side rails. Fit rails inserted into h/lining pockets & plastic sockets starting at one end. Adjust bows sit so that they sit upright. Glue one end (front or rear) and stretch lining nice & taut, then glue opposite end, then you can do each side same way ie stretch & glue. I used contact cement (on outside edge of window appetures only), probably not strictly correct glue but makes it easier.
I also found if you attach some felt to the inside of the roof it helps keep the bows upright when fitting them. Also useful for sound absorption.
Trim excess material around window appetures so that it wont show when you refit the window rubbers, otherwise it will look crap.
Have fun :lol:

Ps don't forget to pull thru wiring for interior light on passenger side rail. That is all.


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wats contact cement? does it take long to dry? do you apply it on the lining itself or the car? where can you get it from? bunnings?


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rubber cement and contact cement same thing different names... yeah bunnings or art/craft supply store... depending on the instructions they normally recommend both surfaces but in this situation go for the part of the car you are gluing to cos if you put it on the fabric you dont know exactly which bit of the fabic is going to end up where and you could end up with glue all over the place and where you dont want it to be so yeah apply to the definite area on the car you know your parameters there.

The glue... hard to explain what it is but its kinda the consistency of honey and can be stringy and annoying but is the best stuf for the job cos a) its so thick it wont run (you are working on a vertical surface)
b) very tacky so will hold well even before dry (normally you apply glue to surface, wait a few secs for it to semi set then attach fabric to it tedious I know but worth it - if you are impatient just use the re-clip method as I mentioned earlier no dramas. and dont put it on too thick! you dont want globs oozing everywhere lol... Dont stress. Its really not that scary just a little tedious... Have fun

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:38 am 
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gotta change mine over soon. im pretty sure nick (1018cc) did his own and i think ash's headlining aswell?


Nah, not me I'm afraid robbie. I know the difference between my ambitions and limitations. I have seen one home job on a hood lining and that was enough to convince me to spend $170 on getting a pro to do it, and that included taking all the glass out and putting it all back in (including the front and rear windscreens).

Money well spent IMHO. The same bloke did Ash's :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:54 am 
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was that including the headlining? or did they make one for u?


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That was only for labour / glue etc.

I think all up it was about $800 because:

:arrow: I also bought a new windscreen to put in while the old one was out anyway
:arrow: I bought new windscreen seals and locking strips
:arrow: I also got the sun visors covered in the same material
:arrow: I think they sourced the hoodlining but I have never seen the pattern on it before so they could have made one using measurements from the old hood lining.

PM Ash and ask her how much it cost (if she doesn't mind telling you) - she supplied all that so she only paid them for the labour etc :wink:

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lilmatti,

I suggest you check the contents of the kit. I purchased one a few months ago and it didn't come with the rectangular piece that runs under the back window between the pillars. I managed to convince the seller to supply the extra piece but he wasn't particularly enthusiastic about it and said that he would have to cover the extra cost. I tried to point out that this section was a standard part of the interior headlining and needed to match the other headlining material.
Good luck.
P.S. I haven't fitted mine yet so can't help in that regard.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:47 am 
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hey i just checked my bows and instead of this:
Red
White
White
Black
Blue
Yellow

i have this, not in correct order
Yellow
yellow
orange
brown
red
Nothing.

is this the same as everyone else? what order do they go in?


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I bought one of those headlinings of Ebay last year, i just used kwik grip on the side's.
It fits very well.

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