Good on ya Angus! Ever the optimist eh?
At least you're realist - I'm with you mate.
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| Author: | Wombat [ Thu Jan 20, 2005 12:01 pm ] |
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http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/fuelcell.html |
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| Author: | 1380 yellow devil [ Thu Jan 20, 2005 12:19 pm ] |
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Looks interesting should work ak if setup properly. |
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| Author: | Angusdog [ Thu Jan 20, 2005 4:31 pm ] |
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Looks like it appeals to the Conspiracy Theorist in everybody. I think you'd have better luck picking up beer nuts with your butt cheeks (to quote John Candy). Me, I'd rather drop a diesel in and run on fish & chip oil. At least that does work. |
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| Author: | simon k [ Thu Jan 20, 2005 6:59 pm ] |
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rotaries run really well on hydrogen because they are resistant to pre-ignition - that's the biggest drawback with it on piston engines, but it can be done. I heard aboutsomeone about 100k's from me who had a datsun on hydrogen, and he got a knock on the door from some guys in black suits with a bunch of money asking for the car |
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| Author: | FatMaserati [ Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:19 pm ] |
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"Burning" water as a source of fuel is extremely difficult. The conditions and the aparatus has to be exactly right. Some psycho mini owners, along with their NOS systems, set up a water/methanol injection system. The methanol obviously burns and through various chemical reactions it burns the water as well. But you have to know what you are doing. If the water doesn't burn properly, then you may as well drive your mini into a lake... |
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| Author: | MadMin [ Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:08 pm ] |
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Good on ya Angus! Ever the optimist eh?
At least you're realist - I'm with you mate. |
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| Author: | drmini in aust [ Thu Jan 20, 2005 9:22 pm ] |
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If electrolysis of water to Hydrogen and Oxygen was so simple it would be NICE! I'm sure I read somewhere that the energy to do this conversion would exceed the energy in the gases created?? Otherwise we would have found the holy grail- perpetual motion.. 
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| Author: | cush [ Thu Jan 20, 2005 9:28 pm ] |
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a friend of a mate of mines created a perpetual motion machine....he hasn't seen it since it started |
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| Author: | JC [ Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:00 pm ] |
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drmini in aust wrote: If electrolysis of water to Hydrogen and Oxygen was so simple it would be NICE!
I'm sure I read somewhere that the energy to do this conversion would exceed the energy in the gases created?? Otherwise we would have found the holy grail- perpetual motion.. Fairly certain BMW have procuded a Hydrogen powered car? |
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| Author: | cush [ Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:14 pm ] |
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i hope it's better than their last effort.. 
sorry.... it's getting late |
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| Author: | willy [ Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:20 pm ] |
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The old Hindenburg. I remember it like it was yesterday. 
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| Author: | drmini in aust [ Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:19 am ] |
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Whitestriped63 wrote: drmini in aust wrote: If electrolysis of water to Hydrogen and Oxygen was so simple it would be NICE! I'm sure I read somewhere that the energy to do this conversion would exceed the energy in the gases created?? Otherwise we would have found the holy grail- perpetual motion.. Fairly certain BMW have procuded a Hydrogen powered car? Yeah they did but it's bottled H2 I think. Probably got by air separation? Who's the industrial chemist here.. anybody? My point is yes electrolysis works to crack water, but takes lots of power to do, I don't think it works on board a car! |
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| Author: | Angusdog [ Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:28 am ] |
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The issue with hydrogen cars as I understand it is that it takes a lot of energy to produce the hydrogen gas, so while the car itself produces no emissions, the production of the hydrogen gas requires energy and therefore either hydroelectric power, nuclear etc - it just shifts the energy issue from the car to central government. Incidentally, what is the motivation for car makers to keep hushed over pollution-free, cheap to run engines? |
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| Author: | WhoDat [ Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:29 am ] |
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Money - like everything |
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| Author: | drmini in aust [ Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:31 am ] |
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Angusdog wrote: The issue with hydrogen cars as I understand it is that it takes a lot of energy to produce the hydrogen gas, so while the car itself produces no emissions, the production of the hydrogen gas requires energy and therefore either hydroelectric power, nuclear etc - it just shifts the energy issue from the car to central government.
Incidentally, what is the motivation for car makers to keep hushed over pollution-free, cheap to run engines? I thought it was BIG OIL that wanted it hushed up.. How about a Stanley Steamer (or similar) running on LPG or CNG- there's a thought.. 
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