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| Author: | henry the mini [ Mon May 19, 2008 12:35 pm ] |
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Hi all, went to Sydney for the week end and have a look in one of your mini shop. There was for sale a sport 850. In the window was a description of the car and a line say: One of only 7 know surviving 850. Is this true, only that few left? Was a nice car 
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| Author: | Anto [ Mon May 19, 2008 12:43 pm ] |
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I personally only know of 4, so I would suggest it is actually one of only 4 remaining. That makes it even more rare. 
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| Author: | Mini Mad [ Mon May 19, 2008 1:26 pm ] |
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what shop and how much? |
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| Author: | speedy [ Mon May 19, 2008 3:14 pm ] |
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$10 it was the black one at M&M world. 
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| Author: | Morris 1100 [ Mon May 19, 2008 6:20 pm ] |
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speedy wrote: $10 it was the black one at M&M world. Another $10 says that they will have another one shortly (and another, and another) 
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| Author: | AWOODY [ Mon May 19, 2008 7:01 pm ] |
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I know of one being painted right now, white with blue interior |
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| Author: | henry the mini [ Mon May 19, 2008 7:27 pm ] |
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speedy wrote: $10 it was the black one at M&M world.
Genuine or not is not the point, is there really that few left? Anyone know how much where made? I was surprise to see that kind of number!!! |
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| Author: | Morris 1100 [ Mon May 19, 2008 7:36 pm ] |
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I don't think anyone knows for sure the actual number of Morris 850s that were fitted with the Sports 850 kit. They were not done by BMC, they were done by a couple of dealers. (very important, major BMC dealers) A lot of Minis would have got the same kit as the Sports 850 but without the badges as BMC used to market hot up kits for most models. |
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| Author: | Gadgets mini [ Mon May 19, 2008 7:47 pm ] |
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one used to be a mod as well
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| Author: | poeee [ Mon May 19, 2008 8:06 pm ] |
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I recon I know of atleast 7 if I really thought about it. |
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| Author: | sports850 [ Mon May 19, 2008 8:12 pm ] |
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This is where it gets a bit tricky , I know of 5 genuine ones that can be proven to be genuine (original books and full history) , 2 outright replica's and a couple of possibles . Yes Louis , they are THAT rare
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| Author: | henry the mini [ Mon May 19, 2008 8:20 pm ] |
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Dident know that Sport 850 where not a "model" but some sort of "accesories pack" added by a few dealer. Really makes it nearly impossible to prove how genuine a car is. Is there no difference in the number, ie: on the car and on the engine, are they simply 850 number? |
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| Author: | speedy [ Mon May 19, 2008 8:23 pm ] |
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Tada! So it's for sale now - how much are they asking? 
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| Author: | henry the mini [ Mon May 19, 2008 8:27 pm ] |
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Looking at the sing it still might not be for sae 
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| Author: | sports850 [ Mon May 19, 2008 8:32 pm ] |
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henry the mini wrote: Dident know that Sport 850 where not a "model" but some sort of "accesories pack" added by a few dealer.
Really makes it nearly impossible to prove how genuine a car is. Is there no difference in the number, ie: on the car and on the engine, are they simply 850 number? What morris means is they never had their own model number but were a factory approved performance version . The sports850 with the badges the same as the one you saw were only converted and sold by Peter Manton Motors in Melbourne and P and R Williams in Sydney . There was a kit produced at the same time with a round badge for the grille saying "sports850 conversion" sold by other dealers but the one you saw was not sold as a kit , only as a converted car . They came about as Peter Manton was racing an 850 with twin carbs and being knocked back on protest as it wasn't a production model , he asked BMC for the cooper to be imported and sold here but they declined saying the cooper was "too advanced and too expensive" for Australia . Manton offered to make a performance 850 to prove there was a market for the cooper and BMC agreed so they were factory approved and covered by the factory's warranty . Because there was no seperate model number they are hard to prove tobe genuine or not genuine unless they have their full history (when you call in here Louis I'll show you the original books for mine , a friend who did his apprenticeship at P and R Williams and also converted them has verified the signatures in the service book as being the people there at the time) . The difference from a standard 850 was the twin carbs , chrome rocker cover with sticker , "sports exhaust" and optional white paint flashes front and rear . The badges are a pressed metal and not cast like most people think so that's one way to check originality . |
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