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Author:  Leighton [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:37 pm ]
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hey,

just thimking about de-seaming my clubby..........
what is involved, is it expensive, is it just a matter of grinding?
and also do the seams hold anything or do anything structurally that would limit rego......??

cheers leighton

Author:  albino235 [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:46 pm ]
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I think the answers go;
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just thimking about de-seaming my clubby..........
what is involved a lot, is it expensive yes, is it just a matter of grinding? no, lots of welding as well
and also do the seams hold anything or do anything structurally that would limit rego......?? yes, like most things on a mini, they are there for a reason... They hold your car together

cheers leighton


But I will let someone else confirm this

Author:  minidrifter [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:51 pm ]
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MUNKEY de-seamed his clubby, i think its come out a treat, and he did his in under a week :shock:

Author:  d1ck0 [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:52 pm ]
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They do hold everything together....

If you want to de-seam it, I would make sure that you have a confident, experienced welder doing it for you.

Author:  ryan [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:39 pm ]
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De-seaming a mini is a big big job. The seams on the mini hold it together. to give you a basic idea, to do it properly, you need to grind away about three or so inches of the seam then re weld it from the inside and the outside, then do the next three or so inches, then weld from the inside and then the outside. If you don't have good welds the structural integrity of the car has been lost. Once you have welded it up you then need to spend lots of time grinding the area smooth, then filling, sanding, priming painting etc. Not a small job by any means.

Ryan

Author:  Monster Mini [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:22 pm ]
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DONT DO IT...

Author:  Morris 1100 [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:27 pm ]
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The seams do nothing, they are just decoration. Just cut them all off with a stanley knife, it is a piece of piss. :mrgreen:

Author:  Kennomini [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:28 pm ]
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Be careful this is what a "panel beater" did to my car and I only found out 2 years after it was done :x :oops:
VERY UNSAFE
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They are now fully welded and now a lot safer/stronger :D
The best way I would do it would be to fully weld the inside of the seam, then weld an inch wide strip of steel down the length of the seam on the inside, then cut/grind an inch or two off the external seam and weld it back up and then another inch or two and weld and so on until it's fully welded.
A lot of work and technically/legally it would need to be engineered and mod plated aswell :roll:

Author:  AEG163job [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:06 pm ]
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WOFTAM : :x

Why would you want to destroy that brilliant and unique BMC engineering :?:

Author:  MUNKEY [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:17 pm ]
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Kennomini wrote:
Be careful this is what a "panel beater" did to my car and I only found out 2 years after it was done

whats going on there mate? is that how much he welded ? and filled the holes in with bog?

Leighton wrote:
hey, just thimking about de-seaming my clubby..........
what is involved, is it expensive, is it just a matter of grinding?
and also do the seams hold anything or do anything structurally that would limit rego......??

do it if your seams are really crap and rusty, if they were good id leave them unless you really wanted to do it because you think it looks cool.

its a crap job but the time spent thinking how crap it is you can spend getting stuck into it

i recomend doing the rear first as its easier, leave the seam on, grind the surface clean on the inside and weld the two joining panels right up the guts then cut the seam off the outside, then clean it up with your grinding disk then the usual fill, file, sand, prime. you have the rear looking something like by lunch time.

pretty much the same up front but a the A-pillar you have to do a few inchs at a time like old mate said in the first few posts and id stick another couple of hours on top untill its looking something like.

its not that bad of a job i supose but id rather be out thrashing my mini around then pissing around welding and messing about with it just for the sake of some bloody seams.

come rego time the blueslip guy wouldnt know if its meant to have seams or not and would be to busy checking the stuff on his list to notice.

id say welded up there just as strong, im not a beater but it worked for me.

Author:  Kennomini [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:57 pm ]
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MUNKEY wrote:
Kennomini wrote:
Be careful this is what a "panel beater" did to my car and I only found out 2 years after it was done

whats going on there mate? is that how much he welded ? and filled the holes in with bog?

yep that's what the old panel beater did, just spot welds and bog :evil: I never saw it until I took the car off the road and sandblasted it :x . the new beater has now fully welded it all up.

Author:  MUNKEY [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:35 pm ]
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That is very poor for a professional.

i wonder how much they would quote for this to get it into primer.. $800 ?

Author:  Archangel007 [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:52 pm ]
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Kennomini wrote:
yep that's what the old panel beater did, just spot welds and bog :evil: I never saw it until I took the car off the road and sandblasted it :x . the new beater has now fully welded it all up.


Fark - that is just downright dangerous!!! Holy smoke Kenno, if you had had an accident in that it would have folded like a Coke can. You are very lucky my friend! 8)

Munkey - who ever said panel beaters are professionals?? Most of the ones I've met are just professional f&*k-ups!! :roll:

I deseamed my clubby - yes it was a lot of work and yes it took a while, but I love the seamless look and not having to worry about rust in the seams again.

Cheers,
Tricky

Author:  sgc [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:07 pm ]
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Archangel007 wrote:
I deseamed my clubby - yes it was a lot of work and yes it took a while, but I love the seamless look and not having to worry about rust in the seams again.


.. not to mention knowing that the bloke who did it did a bloody good job 8)

Author:  d1ck0 [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:08 pm ]
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I've heard Tricky's a bit scared of using a welder :shock:

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