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Author:  lh.67.mm [ Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:25 pm ]
Post subject:  retractable seat belts
hey can anyone point me in the right direction to put retractables in my 67 cooper s?

where can i get them from?

cheers =]
Author:  1310/71 [ Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:47 pm ]
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I got a set a few months back from Mini King. Around 80-85 each from memory. Fairly straight forward install, with only one trick. They both appear to be for the same side, but you can mount one then twist the belt over in the black top mount to get it to be left and right handed easy enough.
KB
Author:  lh.67.mm [ Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:52 pm ]
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thanks for that
ill go down there during the week
cheers =]
Author:  Moriarty [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:08 pm ]
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I saw this recently and it might be another option for you. I don't have any connection to Autoliv or any of the businesses mentioned below, just looking for my own project. Here's the search for BLMC / Mini / 1967, not sure if it's retractable:

http://www.autolivaftermarket.com/pr-re ... model=5449

Quote:
Autoliv Aftermarket belts and harnesses can be purchased from all major motor parts retailers and distributors.

Retailers:

Autobarn
Auto One
Auto Pro
Burson
Repco
Super Cheap
Coventry's
Motor Traders
DC Willshire

Distributors:

National Parts
High Performance Products
Select Gear
Automotive Restraint Fitters Australia
South Coast Agencies
Continental
Author:  Mike_Byron [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:36 pm ]
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There are safety problems fitting retractable seat belts to a mini such as a roundie. The B pillars in a clubman had different bracings welded in to support the "snatch'' effect of a retractable seat seeat belt.

Earlier minis didn't have this and the worry is that in the event of a reasonable bang the B pillar will pull in on top of you.

By "snatch" effect I mean the load B pillar by the seat belt is doubled because of the pulley where the seat belt bolts to the top of B pillar. This has beeen discussed in detail in various threads over the years on Ausmini.

The normal rego inspector probably wouldn't notice this but an engineeer would but its a real safety issue for you as you are the one sitting tucked up against the B pillar.

Mike.
Author:  Bubbacluby [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:47 pm ]
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too get down to the nitty grity and technicalities i would say (dont quote) it would be illegal because you are changing the mounting points for the seatbelts. Same reason it is illegal to put seatbelts in the back of a mini that wasnt made with belts in the back - you have to get them engineered.

but a blueslip/pinkslip man probably wouldnt notice it.

Brenton
Author:  1310/71 [ Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:53 pm ]
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Bubbacluby wrote:
too get down to the nitty grity and technicalities i would say (dont quote) it would be illegal because you are changing the mounting points for the seatbelts. Same reason it is illegal to put seatbelts in the back of a mini that wasnt made with belts in the back - you have to get them engineered.

but a blueslip/pinkslip man probably wouldnt notice it.

Brenton


When I put them in my clubbie, these ones use the standard mounting points so no modifications necessary - can't speak for roundnoses. They sit just forward of the rear parcel bin, not in them.

I see Mike's point, but I reckon if the impact is big enough to pull the b pillar in, you've got more to worry about than just the seatbelt.
Author:  Mike [ Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:29 am ]
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1310/71 wrote:

I see Mike's point, but I reckon if the impact is big enough to pull the b pillar in, you've got more to worry about than just the seatbelt.


What they are saying is that you are creating the conditions for your seatbelt mounts failing (as well as possibly being injured by a sharp chunk of metal ripped out of the pillar or the ripped seatbelt mount smacking you in the head) during a collision. You are placing an increased load on the top most point of the pillar (which is not designed or reinforced for that) by using the sliding fixing of the retractable belt as opposed to the fixed and separate fixing of a static one. So the impact could be not nearly significant enough to pull the B pillar in with a 3 point static, but you've just introduced a pulley effect that has tranfrormed most of the energy to the top of the B pillar - thus making the B pillar fail and killing yourself and your passengers.
Author:  d1ck0 [ Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:02 am ]
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Talk to an Engineer about this. Doesn't your life and/or that of your passengers deserve this simple phone call and visit?

Dicko.
Author:  matt850 [ Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:08 am ]
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Contact Stuwey in Adaelaide. He works for a mob that make them. I put them in the 850. I t was easy and they work great.
As for the safety issue..... Mike brought this same argument up when I fitted them to Morris. Yes, I agree with his physics to a degree but in my uneducated humble opion if you are driving a mini and have an accident hard enough to collapse the side pillar I really dont think it would matter what seatbelts were fitted. You're screwed in any event ! IMO.
Author:  Mike [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:31 am ]
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matt850 wrote:
Yes, I agree with physics to a degree


I love this statement. Very George W Bush.
Author:  matt850 [ Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:05 pm ]
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Mike wrote:
matt850 wrote:
Yes, I agree with physics to a degree


I love this statement. Very George W Bush.



what it was supposed to say was I agree with his physics to a degree. Now edited.
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