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| Author: | NAV [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:32 am ] |
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Heard NAV making a funy noise on the way home last night and thought it could be my front right wheel bearing. So i've pulled the outer bearing out and was wondering if i re pack the bearing (was a bit dry) if this drive flange was ok to use again? 
and yes i know i should re pack the inner as well but i don't have the time today to do it. |
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| Author: | Harley [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:34 pm ] |
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You see, you've asked if the flange can be used again, yet said you won't pack the inner bearing. Do what you have to for now, but I'd replace it and the bearings. |
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| Author: | michaelb [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:34 pm ] |
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Flange looks OK, Ive seen and used worse. I definately recommend you clean and repack both inner and outer bearings. |
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| Author: | Mick [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:35 pm ] |
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If you grease the outer, the grease will migrate to the inner as they are nearly side by side. Grease it, put it back together and buy a new bearing kit to finish the job as soon as possible. If it was dry, you would need to ask where the grease got to, and if it's out via the oil seals then it will happen again. Also if you can hear a bearing, the damage is most likely already done. |
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| Author: | michaelb [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:57 pm ] |
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And when you buy new baerings, spend the extra on a tapered bearing kit. I think it is about $10 more than the ball bearing type? |
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| Author: | michaelb [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:58 pm ] |
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How do you turn on spell check? |
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| Author: | Mick [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:08 pm ] |
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michaelb wrote: How do you turn on spell check?
It's part of your operating system. |
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| Author: | albino235 [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:01 pm ] |
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michaelb wrote: And when you buy new baerings, spend the extra on a tapered bearing kit. I think it is about $10 more than the ball bearing type?
Definitely get the taper rollers they are much better and usually come with the seals... Also if one side of the car is gone maybe you should check the other side too 
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| Author: | cush [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:28 pm ] |
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michaelb wrote: How do you turn on spell check?
http://www.schools.nsw.edu.au/schoolfin ... region=530 |
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| Author: | NAV [ Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:41 pm ] |
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I am running tapered timkens i think, i also forgot to say that the hub nut wasn't up to its proper torque setting, I don't recall re-torquing the nut at any time. It wasnt dry but certainly was getting towards dry. Probably not enough grease in there to start with knowing me. NAV's my daily and i had to go to work today, hence no time to be able to dissasemble the hub completely. When i've got a bit more spare time and a few $$ lying around i'll get into it. He had no more noises today and actually felt better in the steering. Oh and the bearings have only been in a year or so so shouldn't be worn. The inner part of the outer race was still smooth just looks like the bearing carrier was starting to spin due to not enough pressure from the hub nut and no markings on the rollers either. guess it's just a lack of maintenence then. |
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| Author: | mickmini [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:33 am ] |
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NAV wrote: Oh and the bearings have only been in a year or so so shouldn't be worn.
it is not how long they have been in or how many miles. it is the fact that there was insufficient lubrication and/or misalignment due to improper torquing of the nut. they will likely last a little while if you remedy said issues, but i can guarantee they will be stuffed before long. I love bearings. they are cheap and do wonderful things for the price, but only if you keep them lubricated and aligned properly. I used to work in a factory where some machinery was installed with the grease nipples in the wrong place in the housing. The maintainers religiously pumped grease into the bearings at the recommended intervals, but it simply fell to the side of the bearing. needless to say we detected abnormal vibration and temperature in those bearings in about 3 months. It was only when we pulled the housings apart that we discovered the mistake. A couple of new bearings, moved the grease nipples to the right place and those bearings are probably still going strong today because they were regularly greased. Another bit of machinery had a similar problem, but in this case it was made worse by white spirit used in the machine washing the grease out of the bearings. These required regreasing on a daily basis, but again the grease nipples were in the wrong place meaning the grease did not get to the bearing. They were lasting a matter of weeks when the loads they were experiencing would not have worn them out in 2000 years if they had proper lubrication. get new ones when you can mate cheers michael |
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| Author: | drmini in aust [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:56 am ] |
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Try a new bearing on there, if it rocks about at all, I'd get another flange. You can still buy them new. Unlike Cooper 997/998 ones- I remember surfacing one years ago with bronze and remachining it because they were NLA. These days the tapered rollers are not a lot dearer than the ball bearings, and they last well over 2x as long. Well worth it, particularly if running big wheels or offset. |
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| Author: | John Smidt [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:05 am ] |
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In my opinion I would change the drive flange and check the collar, a good second hand drive flange is just a good as a new one, and a lot cheaper |
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| Author: | My_Mini_Rocks [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 11:12 am ] |
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I am with John on this one.... Do not run that flange again (not worth it with nice new bearings) |
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| Author: | NAV [ Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:02 pm ] |
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Ok all points noted. NAV will be retired from daily duties in the next week so after that i'll be able to pull things down and fix them properly. My new job doesn't require me driving every day because of the hours. Now I can catch the train and enjoy NAV on the weekends 
Oh and the extra money is nice too so i'll be able to lavish extra $$$ on NAV. |
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