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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:46 am 
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Just wondering on the size socket needed for the sump plug?

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Edit: And should it be Torque'd up at all?


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15/16ths. Usually the largest socket in the imperial 1/2 inch socket set.

I do it up till it can't go any further than add about a sixth of a turn (roughly) or thereabouts till tight. If your copper washer is in good shape you won't have any leaks from the plug

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Just whatever you do don't overtighten it. The gearbox is alloy and a lot softer than the plug, it will strip easily if you put too many beans on it.

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When I do oil changes I like to put oil resistant sealer on the thread and do it up finger tight + 1/8 - 1/6 of a turn more. I like to let the oil resistant goo stuff seal the plug, not how tight it's done up.

Next oil change clean the residue off the plug and go again. Only put enough on to seal - not so that it goes everywhere when it's squeezed down.

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wat is this sealer you speak of?

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If you are needing to use sealer, you will find that the copper washer needs to be replaced, or you need to look at the face the washer sits up against for damage.
It's relatively soft copper so that it will take up the small gaps and seal against leaks.

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mattsmadmini wrote:
wat is this sealer you speak of?


It's just some stuff of the rack from super crap. I use it on my rocker cover gasket too to seal that. It's just a oil resistant gasket goo. I CBF'd replacing the copper washer (don't run one at all) and my car doesn't leak oil from the sump plug.....the timing cover OTOH..... :lol:

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Copper Washer .....50c

Permatex sealant from supercrap.....8.00 ?ish..

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Mick wrote:
Copper Washer .....50c

Permatex sealant from supercrap.....8.00 ?ish..


Look on Nicks face..... Priceless :lol:

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cheers for replies fellas.

Even though i got lotsa "beans" behind me I shall remain vigilant as to how many I transfer to the sump plug.

Sorry about that Im at work and bored

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mattsmadmini wrote:
Mick wrote:
Copper Washer .....50c

Permatex sealant from supercrap.....8.00 ?ish..


Look on Nicks face..... Priceless :lol:


But I already have the sealer there from doing other stuff. It's always handy to have, plus, with the amount you stick on a sump plug, I'm hardly that hard up for cash that I couldn't go out and buy another tube when that tube eventually runs out :roll: :P :)

But....each to their own :lol:

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Did an oil change at the weekend and got a surprise - The sump plug was covered in orange goo-sealer stuff.

Figured it was some sort of sealer but it really confused me as last time I did an oil change, I had a magnetic sump plug, and this one was not!

Took me a while to figure out:

The only time it could have been replaced is:
1) Pink Slip inspection??? October last year - unlikely
2) Clutch replacement Jan 2007 @ MIni Classic

...therefore...It's probably been almost 2 years (Maybe Nov/Dec 06) since I did my last oil change :shock: , even though obviously it was replaced when Greig had it 20 months ago.

In my defence, the car only drove on mini runs and occassional weekend trips, then we were in the UK for 3 months last year, then back to even less occassional runs until March when it would commute 1 day per week, then mid-June, since when it's been my daily driver. I've been trying to get around to doing it since Feb, but in that time we bought a house, moved, got married, honeymoon and had a baby.

I feel guilty, I think the irony is that the change i did in Nov/Dec 06 was my second in 4 months, as I had decided I was going to be proactively keen and do it every 2-3 months regardless...didn't last long did it?

Now how much does a magnetic sump plug cost...?


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weevel wrote:
Now how much does a magnetic sump plug cost...?


http://classicmotoring.net.au/cmos/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=110

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Yeah, cheers matt, just did some googling myself, got the same link :)

Might order one in time for next oil change (which will not be in 2 years time :oops: )


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According to the workshop manual the correct tension for the sump plug is 40 to 50lb.ft. :shock: (I would only go about half that.)

When I got my 1100 ten years ago there was a slight leak from the sump plug. I did an oil change and found the sump plug was only finger tight and the treads in the gearbox were shagged. I also discovered 3 fibre washers, one copper washer and lots of thread tape. :roll:
I removed the thread tape and the 3 fibre washers and found that the sump plug now went into the gearbox far enough to engage on the good threads, but only just! :lol:

So I got a new copper washer and picked trough my sump plug collection (not as impressive as Simon's collection) and found the plug that had the longest thread (every little bit helps).
I drilled the sump plug to lock wire it as added security.

It still has always leaked a tiny little bit so on the last oil change I used the Loctite thread sealant goo and the leaks are now cured.


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