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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:12 pm 
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hey guys i am putting in a new oil pressure line and i was screwing in the bit to the block the bit that screws in what do u no just my luck snapped it off how do i get the bit out of the block that is still in there any easy way out i had a bit to much leverage then i thought i think help please how do i get it out


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:idea: Sounds like you need a set of "easy outs"! any hardware or auto shop should have some. :D
You could try and tap it out with a screw driver or pin punch and a hammer.

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What is left in the block shouldnt be tight in there so try to unwind it,

A stud extractor would be best but see how you go with an appropriate screwdriver or similar.

Try not to break the fitting as you dont want any metal in the oil gallery.

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i got a set of easy outs but what if i brake it off in there


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be very gentle and dont rush it, im out of ideas mine are both taken. id be very cautious with metal getting into ur galleries all it takes is a nice decent chunk to clog up a bearing shell

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great i broke the easy out it is in there tight what else can i do i got the easy out out but i still got the brass thing could i drill it a bit untill it gets close to the thread then try and get it out


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You could, BUT before you put the new fitting in crank the motor with the plugs out so oil comes out and pushes the swarf out.
You are treading on thin ice here, be carefull.
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oh ok um i will do that dad said leave it till he helps me get it out some how but i will prob drill it and c what happens hope fully :(


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Wait for your Dad to help mate, you could make things much worse!


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yer i will ok the part is brass so it is a soft metal what it work if i heated it up would it come out or is there any thing else i can do apart from drilling it casue i dont want to risk it :(


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You're going to need to move slowly as rushing around with drill bits and such will end up in sadness. It's a tough one to advise as the aproach will change depending on how much of the bush/easyout is protruding.

Carefully tapping the bush around with a fine pin punch and hammer will start it on it's way enough to remove it once it loosens up, or if it is too deep inside the hole you may need to use more drastic means as above...sound like your old man will be able to give you the best option.

If you do resort to drilling it out (after all other means fail) you may be able to blow the swarf out by turning then engine over once it's out and letting the oil pressure help with the clean up..

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As Mick says Mate you are going to have to take this very easy or you could end up in much more trouble than you already find yourself in.

I would say you are going to have to drill it out!
There are certain techniques for drilling Brass that you may not be aware of.
You need to sharpen the drill in a special way to prevent it from grabbing and being uncontrollable as you try to drill down the centre of the existing hole.
You need to do to the drill what is known as BACKING IT OFF.
You probably won't know what this means so GOOGLE it. You should find a good description. It is a technique used to reduce the rake on the drill so it won't grab on soft materiars like brass and plastics.
I would sneek up on the finished diameter which will be the ROOT Diamater of the thread you are drilling out. I.E a drill that will fit neatly into the oil pressure fitting hole in a block with nothing stuck in it.
Use several drills in 1/64" incruments until you get there.
Make sure they are all backed off.
You should then be able to pick the remaining thread out.

As Mick said and I said before blow the swarf out with the oil by cranking it over without the gauge in until you get oil out of the hole with no brass in it.

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Just found this. Exactly what you need to know.
http://home.iae.nl/users/summer/16mmngm ... pening.htm
The diagram for what you need to do for brass is at the bottom.
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great i broke the easy out it is in there tight what else can i do i got the easy out out but i still got the brass thing could i drill it a bit untill it gets close to the thread then try and get it out


Can you take a picture for us :?: There might be enought poking out to grab another way :idea:

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:19 pm 
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nah it is flush with the block nothing sticking out other wise i would of got it out lol but i had a thought is i get a bolt and screwed it into the block and locktited it in there then undid the bolt would that work becasue it should bring the rest of it out what your thought of that


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