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 Post subject: Weight Savers
PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:44 pm 
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Hey guys, just checked out some threads on other forums regarding ppls weight of mini and how they got rid of some extra weight - one got his car to 440 kg
Just wondering if any ausminiers have dabbled in the weight loss game and if theres some basic things that go first.

Its a topic not discussed her often but i think it may be the cheapest way to go fast lol


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get the driver to lose 10kg is the first step


seriously - there is a great story about some club level rally driver telling his competition about the lengths that he went to reduce the weight in his car (Galant VR4 i think it was). Included changing every nut and bolt for lighter weight titanium ones ($$$$$$$$). then to much hilarity his navigator waddles around the corner, all 140kg of him :lol:

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In a road car the only practacle thing is not to have a heavy stereo install, or carry a spare wheel and jack.


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For the road, I just stick with a few simple things:
- nice light mags & not too wide tyres
- empty the boot (no spare, jack, tools) & the crap outta the car
- stick with reasonable stereo, no subs
- remove the heater & all ducts

My head unit takes USB, so I don't carry any CDs now either, just a memeory stick.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:52 am 
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Are perspex windows legal on road cars? Also what about a rear "beam axle" instead of the subframe? And what's the lightest shell? (clubman, round nose, van etc etc)

I am wanting to build a light weight road car one day and I'd be looking at no dash, carpets/interior trim, bare boot, light wheels, a lot of alloy components in the engine bay, small alternator and battery etc etc
Basically I'd be weighing all the individual parts and looking for the lighter option.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:55 am 
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A rear beam axle is lighter than the subframe setup by a fair bit, but you'd have to get it engineered for the road.

I *think* perspex side/rear windows *might* be legal, but definitely not for the windscreen.

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Yeah I was only thinking rear windscreen, rear side and maybe door windows for the perspex.

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id think the early 850 shells would be lightest (thinner sheet metal i believe?) and im looking at getting persex windows made up (lexcen actually...bit lighter) for rears and doors (niether of the windscreens...) :wink:

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mattsmadmini has the right idea, lexcan may be lighter but it also doesn't scratch anywhere near as easy as perspex.

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mattsmadmini wrote:
id think the early 850 shells would be lightest (thinner sheet metal i believe?)


I had a '62 850 once upon a time and it was a tank -- I swear the sheet metal was thicker than the later ones. Definitely gave more of a 'thunk' when rapped with a knuckle than the 'clang' of later cars.

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850's are lighter due to the doors not having winding mechanisms etc.


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I am in the middle of makeing a "sports sedan" Mini and we are looking at losing about 200kg in total inc cage

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I did a little weight saving today myself. One ten inch hole in engine compartment, two 9 x 7 inch holes in the dash, and I removed that box thing on the firewall.

Advantages: car is lighter, faster and more fuel efficient, and with the cost of steel these days the money I make from scrap will drive me around the block.

Disadvantages: takes long time to do, risks structural integrity of car, and costs a fortune in terms of the number of dremel cutting discs required.

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Have you seen that 440kg mini? it has no boot, no boot floor, no glass, no bonnet, etc. Wouldn't even have a chance at getting scrutineered here to race at the drags let alone registered for the street.

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Harley wrote:
I removed that box thing on the firewall.

What the cross member :shock: you got to be talking about something else :?

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