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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:27 pm 
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Hi guys im having problems with my clubby electrics.

1st thing is that my tail lights dont work, brake lights work but normal tail lights dont, also number plate lights arnt working, the front parker lights near the indicators and the dash lights and the interior light(it sparks when trying to turn it on). Indicators and everything else work perfectly.

I checked this fuse but it seems ok, ill change it but didnt have 15 amp fuse.
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Also where do the wires go on the back of the dimmer switch. I have red with white tracer, and 2 red with green tracers.
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The last electrical problem is the wipers. On the back of the switch i have
1,Black green
2, Combined black, one goes to the wiper switch and green to the wiper regulator :?:
4, Red light green
5, Blue light green
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Does i need the regulator thingy??

Any ideas? Cheers


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Try changing the fuse in the top picture as it is for that circuit , plus it's cheap and easy and worth discounting first .

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if your interior light sparks when trying to turn on - are the wires around the wrong way. i did this and it melted the light :evil:

but the rest, check that you have good contacts - metal on metal - the power splitter thing in the engine bay - solenoid?? (i dont know what it is called)

But change the fuse first as sports said as this is the easiest thing to do first

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I changed the fuse and still not working. Ive cleaned all the contacts aswell.

Does anyone know if theres only 2 wires connecting to the dimmer switch.


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I just wired my voltmeter gauge. Its reading about 12 volts when switched off and around 11 when lights on. Is it alright to run the + from the fusebox as i didnt have a big enough ring terminal for the solenoid :oops:


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Does anyone know if theres only 2 wires connecting to the dimmer switch.


That's all that should be needed....

.. however from your photo looks like both wires going to same terminal...

.....so it would be just acting as a connector (dimmer function bypassed)

<EDIT> Thinks.... perhaps there is a 3rd wire that normal connects that is missing.... could explain lack of dash ligts.. perhaps more... <EDIT>

When connected up normally - the dimmer is also an on/off switch -when you twist the knob it will click near the extreme end of one rotation - that will be OFF. So can explain why Dash lights aren't on. Shouldn't be an issue in this case the way it is currently wired......
I know in my Clubman I sometimes have to jiggle the dimmer switch about to get the dash lights working..... I think it may be getting corroded internally... a bypass may be needed ;-)


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Does i need the regulator thingy??


This looks like an after-market wiper delay switch .... eg intermittent wipers.

So don't need it.... and not sure how it's wired in..... so be careful if trying to remove.

As for your side-light / dash etc issue - if the fuse is looking OK...

A. Checked Earth connections.
B. The light switch itself is connected OK - wire hasn't fallen off the back / dirty connection ?


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Do you know how the wires connect? Cant i just have them always on, is that what your meaning by bypass? connect the two wires together? The switch is wound all the way to the right so that would mean its on.

Wiper wiper switch has a green wire thats connected with the black wire of the wipers (earth?) And a red wire for power, the others arnt connected.

With the light switch is there a certain wire that activates the park lights, at the back of my switch i have Blue. brown and Red


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I just noticed that when i switch the wipers on my voltmeter drops from around 12 volts to 11. Does this mean the wiper motor isnt working? Will i need a new one?

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Location: Under the bonnet son!
No, that is quite normal. The voltage will drop across a poor contact however as it turns into a bit of a resistor when current starts to flow.

You might need to perform a bit of a scorched earth policy and disconnect all the lights in circuit. If you reconnect them one at a time you can then track the fault down to a corner of the car which you can deal with a little more easily.

First up however, check your main fuse box for something touching the chassis. the park lights are a different circuit to the interior lights, both come straight from the fuse box. This raises a red flag in my mind.

otherwise go on..

1. Go to the boot and disconnect the park light connections from the back of the indicator assemblies on both sides (red wires) also the number plate light connection.

2. Go to the center of the front and dig the wiring loom out from under the bonnet catch panel. There are connectors here where the park light (red wire) is branched out to left and right hand side. disconnect this red wire here as well.

3. Disconnect your interior light.

4. Now that all that is done, there is only the instrument lights connected in circuit. try and find the connection for the instrument lights at the baqck of the switch and disconnect them. Reinstall the fuse and turn it on. If no short then move on to the next step.

5. Reconnect the instrument lights. Test for 12 volts at the switch and turn on the park lights only.
If they work normally, move on. If not chase the prtoblem out by checking the wire from the back of the switch, through the dimmer and up to the back of the light if need be to see where it ends.

6. Now test the rest of the system by connecting one corner of the car at a time back into the park light (red wire) circuit. They should all come on normally until you get to the one that is causing the short.

You've got to be methodical.

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