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Author:  winabbey [ Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Original seat belts on MK II
What brand and colour lap/sash seat belts were fitted as standard to the MK II series of cars (i.e. 1969-71 Mini K, Cooper S, etc.)? Were they the Britax one's that came from the UK or was there a local supplier?
Does anyone have a picture of an original set, particularly the buckle?
On a similar note, when did inertia reel belts start getting fitted as standard? I'm assuming it was the Clubman era.
Author:  simon k [ Sat Dec 27, 2008 1:45 pm ]
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from my car... ignore the ugly seat fabric. SMK269 has a contact who can make the belts with the original stitching and webbing (show only)

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Author:  Bubbacluby [ Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:48 pm ]
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simon k wrote:
from my car... ignore the ugly seat fabric. SMK269 has a contact who can make the belts with the original stitching and webbing (show only)


Why only for show use ?? is it because he doesnt produce seatbelts to australian standards or some law like that?

Do both the front ones clip into a single plastic unit the same as the clubby ones??
Author:  John Smidt [ Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Original seat belts on MK II
winabbey wrote:
What brand and colour lap/sash seat belts were fitted as standard to the MK II series of cars (i.e. 1969-71 Mini K, Cooper S, etc.)? Were they the Britax one's that came from the UK or was there a local supplier?
Does anyone have a picture of an original set, particularly the buckle?
On a similar note, when did inertia reel belts start getting fitted as standard? I'm assuming it was the Clubman era.

The Photo Simon K has posted is the correct one for the Mk2, ( there was different decals on the catch after Leyland took over from BMC ) Note the pattern of the seat belt webbing.
As for the Inertia Belts They were only fitted to the late Model Mini From Memory 1977 1978, this as a matter of interest was around the same time that the Big hole disappeared from the front fire wall and the rear seat brace
Author:  winabbey [ Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:32 pm ]
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Do we know what company manufactured them?
Author:  John Smidt [ Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:56 pm ]
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winabbey wrote:
Do we know what company manufactured them?


I am Not Positive, But fairly sure the were made by a company called wybrock ( the spelling may not be correct ) I will look at my records and see what I can Find. As a matter of interest the same belt was used on the Morris 1300 & 1500 OHC
Author:  drmini in aust [ Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:00 pm ]
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Spelling is Wibroc, if that is who made em.
I had a pair of originals in a `69 MiniMatic, they had the same buckles as Simon's.

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Author:  John Smidt [ Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:21 pm ]
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John Smidt wrote:
winabbey wrote:
Do we know what company manufactured them?


I am Not Positive, But fairly sure the were made by a company called wybrock ( the spelling may not be correct ) I will look at my records and see what I can Find. As a matter of interest the same belt was used on the Morris 1300 & 1500 OHC


Thankyou Doc for correct spelling ( Wibroc ) Wibroc made seat belts for Britax and cooldrive they were located in Kingsgrove Sydney, Repco bought them out at some stage I think
Author:  Morris 1100 [ Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:38 pm ]
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John Smidt wrote:
Wibroc made seat belts for Britax and cooldrive they were located in Kingsgrove Sydney, Repco bought them out at some stage I think
I remember Rainsfords having a factory at Kingsgrove in the 90s, could that be the same place? :?
Author:  winabbey [ Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:08 pm ]
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Wibroc made mirrors, reflectors and a lot of other automotive aftermarket accessories but their catalogues from that era don't list seat belts. So if they made them it was only for a third party and not themsleves, which seems a bit unlikely. Seat belts would have all sorts of manufacturing requirements for safety so it seems more likely an existing local manufacturer with the correct tooling and testing facilities like Hemco would be better placed to do it.
Author:  John Smidt [ Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:39 pm ]
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winabbey wrote:
Wibroc made mirrors, reflectors and a lot of other automotive aftermarket accessories but their catalogues from that era don't list seat belts. So if they made them it was only for a third party and not themsleves, which seems a bit unlikely. Seat belts would have all sorts of manufacturing requirements for safety so it seems more likely an existing local manufacturer with the correct tooling and testing facilities like Hemco would be better placed to do it.
Ok Have a Look At this and see if you believe them http://wibroc.pbwiki.com/Club+History
Author:  Morris 1100 [ Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:55 pm ]
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John Smidt wrote:
winabbey wrote:
Wibroc made mirrors, reflectors and a lot of other automotive aftermarket accessories but their catalogues from that era don't list seat belts. So if they made them it was only for a third party and not themsleves, which seems a bit unlikely. Seat belts would have all sorts of manufacturing requirements for safety so it seems more likely an existing local manufacturer with the correct tooling and testing facilities like Hemco would be better placed to do it.
Ok Have a Look At this and see if you believe them http://wibroc.pbwiki.com/Club+History
That link makes a lot of sense. So Wibroc made Britax belts. Repco took over Wibroc.

So sometime later the Kingsgrove Rd factory was taken over by Rainsfords, probably when Repco was split up. It looks like Britax took over the seatbelt business from Rainsford.
Author:  John Smidt [ Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:59 pm ]
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Morris 1100 wrote:
John Smidt wrote:
Wibroc made seat belts for Britax and cooldrive they were located in Kingsgrove Sydney, Repco bought them out at some stage I think
I remember Rainsfords having a factory at Kingsgrove in the 90s, could that be the same place? :?

It May be I am not sure, As You know I am getting old, I do Know that Rainsfords did make a lot of Zinc based die cast parts for cars like head lamp surrounds etc They were also one of the first companies in Australia to Put a chrome like finish on plastic parts, Like the XP falcon Speedo surround ( this was done using reduced Aluminium in a Vacuome chamber ) I Was involved in the deburring and zinc plating of the safety belt mounts for wibroc during my time as an Electroplater,
Author:  Brown Clubman [ Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:08 pm ]
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So are the buckles the same on the cooper S ones as the GT? i.e. would the S type buckle fit into the clubby/GT slot in the center buckle arrangement?
Author:  simon k [ Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:49 pm ]
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Brown Clubman wrote:
So are the buckles the same on the cooper S ones as the GT? i.e. would the S type buckle fit into the clubby/GT slot in the center buckle arrangement?


my car actually has one buckle with a leyland logo, and one with BMC (I hide the leyland one...) - dunno if that one is original, but I'd say GT's might have had the same
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