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Author:  Lockie91 [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Permit and RWC??? help needed please
Hi,

I am looking at buying a car in Melbourne, not a mini unfortunately tho :( its for my brother.

Anyway can someone tell me because the car will run out of rego this week, (VIC REGO) how can I drive it up here, to the Gold Coast??

I am persuming a RWC and a permit are the same?? The owner of the car says I could purchase a permit for $40 from (VIC ROADS) but will that work for driving the car to QLD?

Last three questions are is what they cost (about $40?) is it, how long do they last for, and do they inspect the car b4 giving it out to you, to check if it is in reasonable condition for the road or whats the go there????


if someone could answer these questions for me, that would be wonderful, thanks guys and girls :)

Your fellow Ausminier :)
Author:  superSeven [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:53 pm ]
Post subject: 
permit to drive unregistered vehicle is what you want

all you need is to turn up to vicroads with VIN/Engine number, previous registration number, car make/colour, and your license, and they will make up a permit for you which you stick onto the windscreen. If you have a credit card you don't even need to do it in person, can do it over the phone.

cost is around $70 for 28 days, so I assume $40 for around 14 days, but I think you can get them for even shorter periods, not sure on cost.

Permit covers usage for transit of purchased vehicle to new location, and for purposes of getting RWC/registration.

Limited to driving between 7am and 7pm.

details here:

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/Reg ... Permit.htm

A RWC/Permit are two totally different things. RWC is a certificate of roadworthiness, required for registration.

Oh, they don't/can't inspect the car, as it shouldn't be at VicRoads if it isn't registered. ;)



Tim.
Author:  superSeven [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:03 pm ]
Post subject: 
http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/Home/Re ... _vehicles/

here is what QLD transport say about the matter..

Quote:
If bringing a vehicle from interstate to Queensland, an unregistered vehicle permit must be issued by the state or territory where the journey starts. A new permit must be obtained from the interstate authority if a vehicle has been moved to another state but is being returned to Queensland. All states and territories (excluding Western Australia) have reciprocal arrangements so that a vehicle may travel through other states and territories with a Queensland issued permit.
Author:  Morris 1100 [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:14 pm ]
Post subject: 
I took my HQ race car from Melbourne to Hobart and back to Melbourne on a Vicroads permit (via the Spirit of Tasmania). They are great! Just rock up and pay the money and off you go!

In NSW you need to get a roadworthy inspection before they will issue a travel permit. :cry:
Author:  GoodnightWalter [ Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:26 pm ]
Post subject: 
The Vicroads permit covers you in NSW and QLD. You don't need to get a new permit when you get to the NSW border.

Vicroads says:
Quote:
You can drive interstate with an Unregistered Vehicle Permit this condition is specified on your permit.


NSW RTA says;
Quote:
Unregistered Vehicle Permits (UVPs) can be issued for a wide variety of purposes. They are valid for up to 28 days in all States and Territories except Western Australia.


QLD transport says;
Quote:
All states and territories (excluding Western Australia) have reciprocal arrangements so that a vehicle may travel through other states and territories with a Queensland issued permit.
Author:  Lockie91 [ Thu Jan 01, 2009 12:33 am ]
Post subject: 
thanks heaps guys, its starting to make alot more sense now than it used to. I am still open to everybody else's knowledge, as well that way I can be definetly sure I want get a heavty fine, because we all know the copers are never lenient!!

(GoodnightWalter) sorry I don't know your real name, but um could you post or send me the link where you got that info from, or do you just know from experiencing?

thanks again, guys, and continue to respond, so I can see what everyone else thinks.

Lockie. :)
Author:  minidrifter [ Thu Jan 01, 2009 2:58 am ]
Post subject: 
lockie, click on the orange writing, it has a link attatched to it that will take you to the site where he got that info from :wink:
Author:  4myego [ Thu Jan 01, 2009 6:20 am ]
Post subject:  NSW laws
Just some info for NSW members

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/ ... tml?rlid=2

Driving unregistered vehicles

Driving an unregistered vehicle is illegal and could have enormous financial implications for both the driver and the owner of the vehicle.

If your vehicle is unregistered, go to the 'Get a new rego' page (above left) to find out how to register your vehicle.

When your vehicle is unregistered your Compulsory Third Party (CTP) insurance is not valid. This means the driver will be held personally liable for any property damage resulting from an accident in which they are at fault.

The vehicle’s driver is also open to be sued by CTP insurers for any personal injuries coming from such an accident.

Driving an unregistered and uninsured vehicle is also an offence attracting on the spot infringement notice fines of at least $972 ($486 for being unregistered and $486 for being uninsured). If the matter goes to court, the maximum fine is $2200 for driving unregistered and $5500 for driving uninsured.

Some drivers believe that they can get away with driving an unregistered vehicle if they stick to the local streets around their home. This is not true – many accidents occur within a short distance of a driver’s home.

Unregistered vehicles can be driven for the purpose of obtaining registration by the most direct or convenient route:

* to the nearest convenient motor registry, or
* to the nearest convenient vehicle inspection station or authorised inspection station to determine whether the vehicle complies with the applicable vehicle standards, or
* in the course of inspecting or testing the vehicle to determine if it complies with the applicable vehicle standards, or
* to the nearest practicable weighbridge to determine the weight of the vehicle, or
* from a motor registry or inspection station where the registration of the vehicle has been refused, to the nearest convenient place where necessary repairs can be made or where the vehicle can be garaged, unless a direction has been issued that the vehicle must not be driven before the necessary repairs have been made, or
* from an authorised inspection station to the nearest convenient place where necessary repairs or adjustments can be made or where the vehicle can be garaged, or
* to the nearest convenient office of a licensed insurer for the purpose of obtaining Compulsory Third Party (CTP) insurance, or
* to the nearest convenient location for any other purpose directly associated with the registration process.

If you are caught driving an unregistered vehicle on any other route, you will be fined and police may remove the vehicle's number plates on the spot or they may seize the vehicle.


Unregistered Vehicle Permits

Unregistered Vehicle Permits (UVPs) can be issued for a wide variety of purposes. They are valid for up to 28 days in all States and Territories except Western Australia.

Vehicles carrying a commercial load and vehicles exempt from registration cannot be issued with a UVP.
Obtaining an Unregistered Vehicle Permit

If you're already on the RTA's computer system you can request a UVP by phone, provided you have access to a fax machine and a valid credit card.

Otherwise, you will need to visit a NSW motor registry in person, or authorise a representative to attend on your behalf and provide:

*
Proof of identity. If you send a representative they will need to prove their identity.
*
A document that proves the vehicle is roadworthy (eg a safety inspection report or a Customer Declaration of Roadworthiness for specific vehicles).
*
A completed Application for Unregistered Vehicle Permit form, available from the Registration Forms link, below.
*
The applicable fee.

The UVP includes an administration fee and CTP insurance. However, this CTP insurance only covers you on roads or road-related areas (eg footpaths, nature strips, public driveways, public carparks etc), but not on private property.

When your application is accepted, you will be issued with a permit and a label. The permit explains the vehicle's road access entitlements and should be carried in the vehicle. The label must be displayed clearly at all times.

For more information on UVPs, please contact the RTA on 13 22 13.
Author:  bnicho [ Thu Jan 01, 2009 9:12 am ]
Post subject: 
You don't have to go to a VicRoads office at all. You just ring 131171 and go through the options, then ask for an Unregistered Vehicle Permit and have them fax it to you. They will need to know Make, Model, Year, Colour, Engine Number and VIN/Chassis No. To drive it out of the state (called a single trip permit) you will need the start and destination address.

The fee is somethiong like $28 for the first day with $2 a day for every day after that, up to a max of 28 or 30 days. Permits cannot be extended. Allow maybe a week to drive from Melb to Qld just in case of unexpected breakdowns.

There is no inspection required.

Cheers,
Author:  Davo111 [ Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:01 am ]
Post subject:  Unreg permit
WOW what a knowledgable lot you are and you are exactly right, congratulations....

Caught without a restricted vehcile permit, $ 526 smackeroos....
Author:  bnicho [ Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Unreg permit
Davo111 wrote:
WOW what a knowledgable lot you are and you are exactly right, congratulations....


I've moved so many cars with Permits in the last few years that I almost need to put VicRoads on speed dial. :lol:

(Davo, I hope you got one for Mick's Cooper S before you took it for a test run!)
Author:  superSeven [ Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:15 am ]
Post subject: 
Lockie91 wrote:
thanks heaps guys, its starting to make alot more sense now than it used to. I am still open to everybody else's knowledge, as well that way I can be definetly sure I want get a heavty fine, because we all know the copers are never lenient!!

thanks again, guys, and continue to respond, so I can see what everyone else thinks.

Lockie. :)


doesn't matter what everyone else thinks.. I and others have provided you with links to the relevant pages, and that's what matters. call vicroads, call QLD transport, call NSW RTA. they are what matters.

1) Get permit - VIC permit includes compulsory insurance which is valid australia wide..
2) Drive home.

The system is recognised in all three states you are driving through, so you only need the Vic Permit, but just to be safe, ask the other states authorities.

Do some research. Don't rely on other peoples opinions!
Author:  superSeven [ Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Unreg permit
bnicho wrote:
I've moved so many cars with Permits in the last few years that I almost need to put VicRoads on speed dial. :lol:


I've got my mini on a permit at the moment :D

I can read right from the back of it if anyone wants the details.
Author:  superSeven [ Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:56 am ]
Post subject: 
ok it can not be driven for the purposes of acquiring a RWC.. only to and from a Licensed Vehicle tester to do the repairs.

just found out the hard way.

But it can be driven from place of puchase to a nominated address.

Tim.
Author:  Lockie91 [ Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:58 pm ]
Post subject: 
ohhh, thanks heaps guys, You have been a great help to me, been very helpful. If I had a medal to give to each and everyone of you I would. Thanks heaps guys. :) Anytime your up my way ur welcome to stop by and have a coldy with me :)

All I have to do now is get the permit and I will be in for a long and slow journey from melbourne, hopefully with no drama's. I don't fancy breaking down on the edge of the Motorway, with all the trucks roaring past.

Anyway

Thanks again,

Lockie.
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