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Author: | TUCK3r [ Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:33 pm ] |
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hi im about to take the A panels out of my mini does any one have any picture where to remove the A panels.ive looked in the mini world magazines i have but as its for british cars it had the a panels that are hingless. so any pictures or advice for the job ahead appreciated. TUCK3R |
Author: | drmini in aust [ Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:44 pm ] |
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If fitting new ones buy them first, it's then pretty obvious where you cut the car. ![]() |
Author: | TUCK3r [ Mon Feb 16, 2009 7:55 pm ] |
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i have new ones,but is it spot welded both sides or just where the a panel meets the gaurd? TUCK3R |
Author: | drmini in aust [ Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:38 pm ] |
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Email me and I'll send you some scans of the repair details... but I won't post them here. ![]() <edit> sent, check your mail. |
Author: | Kennomini [ Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:50 pm ] |
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Why not? |
Author: | Kennomini [ Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:50 pm ] |
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Why not? |
Author: | drmini in aust [ Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:02 pm ] |
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Author's copyright... ![]() |
Author: | sgc [ Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:06 pm ] |
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<slightly offtopic> By posting copyright material online, Doc exposes Poeee (and anyone else involved in the ownership/operation of Ausmini) to the sanctioning of infringement. As crazy as it is, under our free trade agreement with the US we're exposed to more stringent copyright restrictions than US citizens, and under their DMCA act even linking to copyright material hosted elsewhere can constitute infringement. Madness. </offtopic> |
Author: | TUCK3r [ Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:51 pm ] |
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thanks for that doc appreciated ![]() TUCK3R |
Author: | simon k [ Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:16 pm ] |
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drmini in aust wrote: Email me and I'll send you some scans of the repair details... but I won't post them here.
![]() <edit> sent, check your mail. can I have them too Kev? I've got some photos of when I did mine - I basically cut the old A panel off at the flange, and put the flange of new panel forward of the old flange, then welded the two together where they met edit: link to the thread -> http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=35136&highlight=rust |
Author: | david rosenthal [ Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:59 am ] |
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Sent a PM to slinky inc [ tim] he has pics of the inner and outer "A" panels that we changed on his car. There are pics on the mods to the inner door hinge brackets to stop all the crap from sitting there and rusting the panels out |
Author: | slinkey inc [ Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:18 pm ] |
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Ok, I've got a lot of random photos from doing the front seams and A panels at David's place. Here's a few, This is the inner A panel off of the car after some patching and fitting (unfortunately no pics of the removal process and measurements that are required before removing). ![]() Inner A panel welded back on. Remember to take it easy welding this back on. Tack it and stitch weld as necessary in order to not bend and buckle it too much, remember it was only spot welded on so no need to fully weld it all up. In order to get the hinge positions right measure first before cutting it all off of the car (important!!!!) and then use the other side of the car to confirm these measurements. If you forget and just hack away, make sure you done one side at a time so that if all fails you can measure the other side of the car. ![]() Outer A panel fabricated by using the original as a stencil, making it bigger, then trimming it down to size. It's easy to get fitted if you bolt it nice and tight then you can tap and hammer it as much as you like to get it to fit (most of it was bent by hand actually). ![]() Mostly all welded up, take it easy here and don't put too much heat into the panel. So basically take you time with it. The more you bend and buckle the panel, the more panel beating required to get it smooth. If you deseam at car this is very important as you have to get a smooth transition from the guard to the A panel and if it's all bent out of shape it will be a nightmare to smooth. ![]() Just because I can. Introducing the inverse seam. A 3mm bar tapped and fitted into the pillar to provide some thick metal to weld onto and to replicate the seam on the inside. David's idea. ![]() ![]() Finally all tapped and filled. ![]() There's probably easier ways of going about it if you still have a seam because then you can replicate spot welds by drilling a hole through both layers of the seam (through the A panel and guard panel as they are butted up against each other) and using a heat sink (brass or aluminium) behind the hole then by useing a MIG (or any other wleder I guess) a 'spot' weld of sorts can be made. But the way I (with much help from David) did the job was a rather cheap way of doing it. It good practice with the welder and had plenty of metal left over for the rest of the car. |
Author: | Wombat [ Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:33 am ] |
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I've got some instructions from a guy off MiniMania Forum. Combined with the above pictures could be of help. PM me if you would like a copy. |
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