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What kind of rear seat belts does a Mini have?
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Author:  mini-dunger [ Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:56 pm ]
Post subject:  What kind of rear seat belts does a Mini have?
HI all are they the 3 point ones or are they just lap sash ones?

also does anyone have a set that they will sell me?

thank you
Author:  mini-dunger [ Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:00 pm ]
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ultimatly I would prefer just lap belts... is this ok too ? same as above tho, someone want to sell me some.
Author:  Morris 1100 [ Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:28 pm ]
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Ummm, lap/sash are thre point belts. :?

From 71 (or so) they all came with three point lap/sash belts.
Before that rear belts were optional.

Lap belts can often cause more damage than they will prevent. Please fit proper three point lap/sash belts.
Author:  Kennomini [ Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:07 am ]
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Due to the lack of reinforcement in the rear parcel tray of my 850 I only fitted lap belts in the rear. If your car is a later model that came with the 3 point belts fit them, other wise it will be illegal, unless it is engineered and I don't think an engineer will approve a downgrade in safety.
Author:  drmini in aust [ Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:54 am ]
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If fitting 3 point belts to an early car it needs the lower inner and outer mounts done the same way as a later Clubby.
Do NOT be tempted to screw the outer mounts to the companion boxes, they will rip off the floor... :shock:
The parcel tray will need serious reinforcing for the top mounts.
If I was fitting rear belts I would take it to a place that does this work and fits baby seat restraints, eg Little's in Blacktown.
Author:  superSeven [ Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:07 am ]
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drmini in aust wrote:
If I was fitting rear belts I would take it to a place that does this work and fits baby seat restraints, eg Little's in Blacktown.


does any one know of a similar establishment in Melbourne?
Author:  sports850 [ Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:15 pm ]
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Heaps to choose from in the yellow pages , see who's the closest and does seat belt fitting , not just baby capsule (though most will be able to do both) .

http://www.yellowpages.com.au/search/po ... ia&x=0&y=0
Author:  DOZ [ Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:41 pm ]
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Both of mine have imaginary ones
Author:  sgc [ Sun Mar 15, 2009 1:44 pm ]
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DOZ wrote:
Both of mine have imaginary ones


Mine too, my imaginary passengers wear them all the time.
Author:  blue_deluxe [ Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:55 pm ]
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Guess imaginary seatbelts are pretty popular then, you cant beat the look of sheer terror a passenger has on their face when they get into the back. Always cracks me up lol.
Author:  Tadhg [ Mon Mar 16, 2009 9:21 pm ]
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Anyone able to recommend a shop in Brisbane..? I've started asking around, and I've checked the Yellow Pages, but no one's standing out... :( I'd be hoping for Ipswich/Oxley area..?

I want a baby bolt installed, and rear belts... I'd have no problem with no rear belts if it was just me back there, but I can't trust my 4 year old to stay still, I can't carry my 6 month old without a seat (even though I remember talking to a couple who reminisced about the time (60's) they had three bassinets in the back of a Mini :shock: ), and, most of all, while I can trust myself (mostly) to behave, I can't trust other drivers. No one should. :roll:
Author:  Tadhg [ Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:01 pm ]
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Ok, ok... Inundated by the responses to my addition to the question! :P :lol:

I've found someone (in Ipswich) who does seat belts and child anchor points, but he wants to see it before he'll tell me whether it can be done or not, let alone a cost. But I was poking around the back of the car today, and I noticed something a little disturbing... It has no parcel shelf. :shock: Well, it has a parcel shelf, but it's 3mm masonite. :x Looks good from above (the masonite's been trimmed with carpet), but no strength whatsoever. :( There's maybe 2" of the parcel shelf steel left in place under the rear window, and 1" in place along the back of the seat upright. :shock: :x I'm amazed it was given RWC like that (it was like that when I bought it, I haven't cut steel on it). :roll:

So... Does anyone have recommendations as to what I should do with this situation..? Obviously there's a significant amount less strength across the top of the rear seat. :roll: And I have no idea how this guy could mount a belt without it going right the way to the bottom of the boot floor, which would probably then be located off the floor and rear panel join, which would destroy boot space if I have anything connected to the anchor point. :( Any (useful!) advice appreciated! :?

I'll note, this isn't a daily driver, but it's handy to be able to fit everyone in the car when we use it to drop the daily driver to get a service... Since #2 arrived last September, we've not been able to view the Mini as alternative family transport, the way we could back when we only had #1 (who's big enough that a booster is fine).
Author:  simon k [ Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:08 pm ]
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Tadhg wrote:
It has no parcel shelf. :shock: Well, it has a parcel shelf, but it's 3mm masonite. :x Looks good from above (the masonite's been trimmed with carpet), but no strength whatsoever. :( There's maybe 2" of the parcel shelf steel left in place under the rear window, and 1" in place along the back of the seat upright. :shock: :x I'm amazed it was given RWC like that (it was like that when I bought it, I haven't cut steel on it). :roll:

So... Does anyone have recommendations as to what I should do with this situation..? Obviously there's a significant amount less strength across the top of the rear seat. :roll: [/size]


for starters, don't go out on the road with it - the parcel shelf is a structural member

it needs to be repaired by having bracing welded in place, and approved by an engineer

even cutting speaker holes in a standard parcel shelf requires bracing to be put in place to put the strength back into it

when I had my accident, the right-left corner of the car took the impact, and the parcel shelf and rear firewall kept the car intact. If there were passengers in the back, they would have been fine, without a parcel shelf, I reckon the car would have folded up
Author:  drmini in aust [ Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:12 pm ]
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In your case I would take the rear window out, then get a parcel tray from a donor Clubby with the seatbelt mounts in, and weld that sucker in place. :wink:
The 2 bottom mounts- go look at a Clubby and do it the same way.
The inners are 2 captive nuts on a plate, the outers go through the wheelarch with a square plate reinforcement.
Author:  Tadhg [ Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:39 pm ]
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simon k wrote:
it needs to be repaired by having bracing welded in place, and approved by an engineer

Would it need to be welded, or is it possible I could get away with rivetting it in..? I've got enough meat left there that they'd get two rivets in most places, and it could be staggered... :? Rivetting would remove buckling, larger amounts of painting (just sealing up the holes, not repainting large areas), heat damage, and possibly even removing the tank (yes, I'm lazy! :oops: ). Though obviously the rear window's going to have to come out... And have a piece of say, 6mm flat welded to the underside of the skin (before rivetting it in), for the Child Restraint Bolt... Obviously the engineer (the seat belt guy is an 'approved person' (Qld Transport language for engineer)) will need to approve it.

I'll have to take it out on the road - no tools or capacity to fix it here. So I'll have to go to someone who can fix it. But no one will be in the back...

Guess I'd better go post in the Wanted section asking for a selt belted Clubby parcel shelf. The Engineer/seat belt installer can organize the captive nuts (no access to welding gear here).
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