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Author:  Tombo [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:45 pm ]
Post subject:  sticky oil filters
Does this happen to anyone else?
Spin on type, z418 made in South Africa, various brands all from the same factory.
I put a smear of oil or grease on the seal, tighten it by hand. 2000ks later when changing i'm nearly bending the filter tool to remove it. Sometimes the band type tool will slip and graze knuckles :x
The last one i put never seize on, see how that goes.
Should i be diong them every 1000ks, maybe 500 :?

Of all the cars i service Minis seem to be the worst for sticky spin on filters.
Author:  drmini in aust [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:50 pm ]
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Many of these aftermarket filters (not just that one) suffer this problem.
The rubber swells when it gets oily... I bet it's just natural rubber not neoprene.
Years ago I bought a yankee 3 pronged filter tool, it'll get anything undone.. :P
T&E Tools 4278.

There is also an asian copy that works, it uses 3 bent bolts for gears. :?
Author:  Tombo [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:55 pm ]
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drmini in aust wrote:
Years ago I bought a yankee 3 pronged filter tool, it'll get anything undone.. :P
T&E Tools 4278.

I have one of them for work, T&E also but the 3 legs are bent flat steel. Its left some big bad marks in my mini filters before.
Author:  peterw [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:51 pm ]
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I have bent all my cheap filter wrenches over the years on stuck filters. I would love to get a decent one. Can I get the T&E 4278 locally? I have tried their web site and the catalogue doesn't seem to work.

Pete
Author:  Tombo [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:57 pm ]
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peterw wrote:
I have bent all my cheap filter wrenches over the years on stuck filters. I would love to get a decent one. Can I get the T&E 4278 locally? I have tried their web site and the catalogue doesn't seem to work.

Pete

A good tool supplier should have one or something similar.
Repco and Motor Traders (coventry) do them.
Author:  awdmoke [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:04 pm ]
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Happened on the weekend, but my trusty "seat belt type" strap wrench will get even the most difficult filter off.

Unfortunately I didn't notice that the "old" filter seal had detached from the filter & stayed on the filter housing. Pumped nearly 4L of new oil all over the engine bay & carport before I shut it down :x
Author:  Mini_Special [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:07 pm ]
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i use a genuine leather belt everytime and it never fails

I also use red PBR/Castrol rubber grease as i had that issue to many times and got the shat with the seal sticking. I also use your weak hand (tombo will still need to use both).
Author:  sgc [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:10 pm ]
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awdmoke wrote:
Unfortunately I didn't notice that the "old" filter seal had detached from the filter & stayed on the filter housing.


Funny, my last filter did that.. for the first time ever. Caught it fairly quickly though, only lost a little bit of oil.

Quality is a thing of the past, it seems :roll:
Author:  NAV [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:40 pm ]
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awdmoke wrote:
Happened on the weekend, but my trusty "seat belt type" strap wrench will get even the most difficult filter off.

Unfortunately I didn't notice that the "old" filter seal had detached from the filter & stayed on the filter housing. Pumped nearly 4L of new oil all over the engine bay & carport before I shut it down :x


Been there done that. :lol: :lol: :lol: :oops: :oops:
Now I ensure that the old seal is gone before I put the new filter on any car I change the oil on now.
Author:  Tombo [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:44 pm ]
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NAV wrote:
awdmoke wrote:
Happened on the weekend, but my trusty "seat belt type" strap wrench will get even the most difficult filter off.

Unfortunately I didn't notice that the "old" filter seal had detached from the filter & stayed on the filter housing. Pumped nearly 4L of new oil all over the engine bay & carport before I shut it down :x


Been there done that. :lol: :lol: :lol: :oops: :oops:
Now I ensure that the old seal is gone before I put the new filter on any car I change the oil on now.


I did that at TAFE :lol:
Started the car, backed off the hoist, nice big snail trail to clean up.
Author:  Mick [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:29 pm ]
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Seems to be a trend at the moment. MY last two ryco filters would not make the last two full turns to make a seal without me leaning on the filter tool as hard as I could.

At this rate I'll transfer back to the early cannister filter style :roll:
Author:  poeee [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:00 pm ]
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Twice, on two different Mini's, i've had to take the oil filter mount off and put it in the vice to get the damn filter off. On my cousins Mini, we had to attack the filter with a hacksaw to get it off the thing!

I've never had a problem getting em off if i've put them on. Always require a fair grip to get off after 5000km. Never leaked. I seem to have the feel when doing them up... haha.

Mick wrote:
At this rate I'll transfer back to the early cannister filter style :roll:


I don't mind them.
Author:  AEG163job [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:35 pm ]
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I always tend to do them up too tight, for fear they will undo.

Then getting'em off is the usual swearing & spanner throwing exercise. :twisted:

As for the seals, I had fun with an Austin 1800 once. thought I'd save time and leave the old ring seal in (fiddly to change). That cost me 8 liters of GTX and a tow truck. :roll:
Author:  niceboy1275 [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:50 pm ]
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coming from a small country town, single mum and eldest of 3 boys, I used to change the oil filter on my mini by slamming a flat head screwdriver thru the filter and then twisting it... ( I had no idea, just *brainwaves*) was only a long time later, my grandpa mentioned that i may destroy the filter head by doing that.... LUCKY!!
Author:  Aussie Brian [ Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:13 pm ]
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Just recently went through this exact exercise. Thought i should purchase one of the three legged tools so i was ready for action, as i had not removed the filter since purchasing the car. Attempt 1 broke and lost one of the screws holding the tool togeather and bent one of the plates on the tool. Search the garage for a suitable replacement screw, straightened the plate and reassembled for Attempt 2. This also ended up in failure with one of the legs breaking off the tool. At this stage I was really peed off with my new tool. Walked away and thought of the next course of action. Out with the welder, fixed the tool, Attempt 3 filter now off and new filter gingerly tightened.
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