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 Post subject: Dyno Day new Needle
PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 7:48 am 
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Okay I did the Dyno Day yesturday and we got 45.2..But its running rich low down and lean up top....Bugger ay but atleast I know

I have tried WinSU152 but they dont have out 1098 +20/40/60 and of course they dont have the RE13 cam...I know the cam is close to .290 but which manifacture should I use for winsu

Otherwise anyone in the know..what needle should I use....1098 +60 RE13 (290) cam a little shaved off the head LCB (perry) HIF44 Needle EDP
I need Leaner down low and and richer up top

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 11:23 am 
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G'Day Gafmo,
You will need to pull the needle out from your carby and get the code number stamped on it. I have the SU needle book with all the profiles and code numbers, but I have found that these days, not that many of them are available. Alternative would be to machine your own or modify an existing one.
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Are you sure it's an EDP needle? It's not on the list in winSU

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poeee wrote:
Are you sure it's an EDP needle? It's not on the list in winSU


Funny you sould say that Scott...I also tried WinSU152 first proir to asking starting this thread.. :wink: it came up with does not reconise Needle :? Arrrr its a Pommy site and it was tuned by a local..Keven Klyning in Syd...So maybe an Ozzy modify..I don't know so I just asked the question..But I did try it out very ruffly on winSu, 1098 no mention of +20/40/60 REcam so I just tried a 285 cam and it cam up with BDP or try BBZ, BDK.
I have also ask this question in another forum :shock: Very Very Sorry :oops: but some one came up with thier is no such needle :shock: it may be worn and could be a BDR..Ill have to recheck tomorrow morning.
I just cant see how it can wear in thier :?:
I'll recheck and refer :wink:
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i think my 44 had a bbz in it hey phildo what needle was in the carby ??
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:58 am 
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OK I'll hijack this thread right here.. :wink:
what needles should I run in Barney- twin HS4s on a 1293, with Ramflo filters & an RE-13 (similar to 276/286) cam? :shock:
Any ideas? It's been 35 years since I ran twin HS4s... :?

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Hi Kev,

check with chris because the twin HS4's i sold him were off dads old 1293 "S" but i cant remember what they were, he may remember the codes.

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1 1/4 run bdl's if that is any help :)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:08 pm 
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drmini in aust wrote:
OK I'll hijack this thread right here.. :wink:
what needles should I run in Barney- twin HS4s on a 1293, with Ramflo filters & an RE-13 (similar to 276/286) cam? :shock:
Any ideas? It's been 35 years since I ran twin HS4s... :?

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Step 1...consult Vizard??...to get you in the ballpark

Step 2....dyno to optimise..

Step 3....road test to confirm dyno outcome???

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Yeah Vizard sez RED springs, with #3 or #4 needles... :?
I think step 3 comes before step 2, Mick.. unless you work for lotsa $$$, which I don't.. :lol:

OTOH the dyno guy might have a tin full of needles to try, and only charge me for the last pair.. :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:07 pm 
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Yeah Vizard sez RED springs, with #3 or #4 needles... :?
I think step 3 comes before step 2, Mick.. unless you work for lotsa $$$, which I don't.. :lol:

OTOH the dyno guy might have a tin full of needles to try, and only charge me for the last pair.. :wink:


Well if they come that caper they probably aint too Mini friendly and you should get outta there :?:

Hmmmmm, lots of road testing without the benefit of a sensor up its clacker etc etc ...just my 5c :D

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:idea: Maybe I should build a fuel/air ratio meter, then who needs a dyno for needle selection. :wink:

I'm just intimidated by the cost of needles, x2, and the selection of 800? to choose from. :?
And people wonder why I prefer tuning Dellortos etc.. :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:14 pm 
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Yeah SU's are bastards of things.
Once you get the right needle, then set them up just right, you have to do it again in a month coz its gone out of adjustments!
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Oi! Don't knock the drum brakes! :wink: :lol: I agree about SU needles though LOL

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G'Day,
Don't know what you guy's are going on about SU carby's... I had my twin SU's properly re-built and GR set up the needles while running in the engine on his dyno, have not touched them in 5 years except to top up the oil, and clean the filters. With working chokes, mine start first kick summer or winter...
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