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Author:  blue_deluxe [ Sat May 02, 2009 8:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Advice about dealing with parents
Hi,
This may not be relevant to a lot of people, but opinions would be appreciated.
At the moment i fully own a round nose. My dad and I rebuilt the engine and did pretty much everything on it but a respray over a few years. The paint was starting to look a bit dodgy and bubbly in places so i got a rough quote of about 10 grand and 6 months to cut the rust out and respray the car. Plus me stripping the car to nothing again.
But i figure i could keep the one i have, and buy another rust free mini and run/modify that and keep the other as is and wait til i can afford to fix it. What i would like advice on is how to convince my parents to let me get another mini?
Cheers,
Joe
Author:  micowen [ Sat May 02, 2009 8:28 pm ]
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It has just taken me 20 years to get my first mini!
Hmmm, parents....big hurdel!
Extorsion? Blackmail?
Now being a parent myself, reasoning with us doesnt work. Maybe work on the angle that the next mini will be a present to your dad....Cause you LOVE him soooo much!
Author:  Morris 1100 [ Sat May 02, 2009 8:30 pm ]
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If you need to ask your parents permission to get another car it is time to stand on your own feet and move out of home.
If you can't afford to move out of home you can't really afford a $10,000 paint job.
Author:  blue_deluxe [ Sat May 02, 2009 8:34 pm ]
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Its not asking permission, its just im about a grand short of buying another one, so need to borrow money. A 10 grand paint job is miles out of my league.
Author:  micowen [ Sat May 02, 2009 8:40 pm ]
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Can you spray yourself?
It can be cheaper (heaps cheaper!!) if you buy the paint yourself, and hire a booth for the day, and spray it yourself.
Not all spraypainters will hire out their booths, but on the odd occasion, some will!
It may still cost over a grand, but a lot less than ten grand!
The only permission you have to ask then is about spraying a little bit of primer at home.
Author:  tinymorris1969 [ Sat May 02, 2009 8:45 pm ]
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WTF!!!! 10GRAND PAINT JOB!!!... whats he painting it with gold???.. i got quoted to repair and respray tiny in a pearl colour for $4000 and i supply the panels...
Author:  micowen [ Sat May 02, 2009 8:52 pm ]
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I guess if the paint is a pearl with metallic fleck, clear over base, with rust and damage repair, back to bare metal, under body deadened, custom finish....maybe.....dunno. It is an awful lot!
Author:  Brik Nuts [ Sat May 02, 2009 8:58 pm ]
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Hey I agree $10k is alot. Is there much rust?????? Has he given you a breakdown of what he is doin???? I would offer to help but Im not in ozzie sorry.
You do need another mini but with the prices in oz will you get a rust free one for cheep??? You could look for a good shell and swap the bits over???
I cannt help with parents but wifes on the other hand........get back to me when you hav one. heheheh

Cheers sorry i wasnt much help
Author:  blue_deluxe [ Sat May 02, 2009 8:58 pm ]
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It was a new car smash repairer that i went to, have to get quotes off shops off the main street in that case. He also quoted 3 grand if i bring a shell with no rust but a few dints for a bare metal respray.
Author:  rad97 [ Sat May 02, 2009 10:32 pm ]
Post subject:  convincing parents
Do what I used to do wait till they go on holidays and just buy another car what can they say once you already have it!

they can only be mad at you for only so long.

Ralph.
Author:  Leighton [ Sat May 02, 2009 10:42 pm ]
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its much easier to ask forgiveness than permission
Author:  DTrain [ Sat May 02, 2009 11:30 pm ]
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10k is crazyness, but by no means far from the norm.
best advice would be to do the bodywork yourself and maybe even the painting too. buy a mig if you havent already got one, they come in handy around the home aswell. cut out the rust yourself and weld in fresh metal. hit it with primer and smooth out the imperfections with filler. a bit of manual labour never hurt anyone. u can then bring it to a repairs shop and get them to spray it for you, or if u have a compressor, just buy a gun and get practising.
Author:  Fiji [ Sun May 03, 2009 12:38 am ]
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y not just turn ur attention to the current car and slowly learn and cut/ get rid of the rust and over time get it ready for painting. it may take a while just doing a little at a time and the patchy primer on the car wouldn't look crash hot but hey

[quote]The paint was starting to look a bit dodgy and bubbly in places [quote]

then only spending 4 -5 k would get u a more then decent respray done and away u go. it may take u a while but the n at least ur not doing up 2 cars and rego insurance, cause we all know it never stops. also, with the second mini ulll probably want it to get a respray as well as initial purchase , the little bit of maintence that we all know it will need, and the rest :) . so ur still going to be spending heaps on that one also.

i rekon stick to one, what s the rush if ur going to keep it, slowly work on the body urself when u can ( or get sections at a time that need it repaired) , save like a legend, slowely preping for it bid day getting the respray.

well thats what im doing and i'll eventually have possibly one sh!t hot mini.
hopefully :roll:
Author:  minifreak1 [ Sun May 03, 2009 5:59 am ]
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Ive just had my car back from panel shop.
99% of rust removed...im sure theres some i and the panel shop diddnt see but they had it for 6 months nearly just to work on the rust alone so im sure its gone now.
ive been qouted $3000 for the paint job..and thats because its a rolling shell now.
thats a quote to strip it right back to bare metal...and respray...all under car sound deadening has been done when they did the rust removal..and they did all inside the car too.
I had all my rust removed for only $1500 but i did suply the panels
thats both front floors replaced both outer sills and inner sills replaced.
rear beaver panel plus other parts here and there...bits behind the inner guards..seems along the boot area and so on.
I agree $10.000 is a bit steep....but then again i got qouted that when i took my first mini to
a grade panels so nothing would suprise me now.
good luck with ya parents...ive just convinced mine to store my mini while i finish restoring it later on this year.
but they also have three arc so theres plenty of room.
Author:  sidewinder1275 [ Sun May 03, 2009 10:21 am ]
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DTrain wrote:
10k is crazyness, but by no means far from the norm.
best advice would be to do the bodywork yourself and maybe even the painting too. buy a mig if you havent already got one, they come in handy around the home aswell. cut out the rust yourself and weld in fresh metal. hit it with primer and smooth out the imperfections with filler. a bit of manual labour never hurt anyone. u can then bring it to a repairs shop and get them to spray it for you, or if u have a compressor, just buy a gun and get practising.


I agree with DTrain, go out and buy some gear and give it a go (especially if you have an interest in working with you hands) The gear doesn't have to be expensive tradesman like stuff eg; that will last for years of repeated hard work. initial cost won't be 10 grand either. At the end of it even if you don't want to do another car sell the gear and get back some (you'll never get it all) of the initial outlay back. I don't know what your intended career path might be but if my son came to me with this idea and it involved learning skills that are going to be usefull latter in life I'd encourage him all the way.
Yes you might make some mistakes along the way but remember that there isn't a trades person out there that didn't stuff up something when they were learning.

Remember safety 1st ( googles when grinding, face mask when welding, don't work under a car without jack stands etc, etc)

P.S all care taken, not responsibly for parents reaction and good luck.
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