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Author:  Irish Yobbo [ Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Weird battery problems

I recently got my 1978 clubman back from a service which somehow took almost a month, so as you'd expect the battery is completely dead. We jumped it to get it home, but now I'm having problems starting it.

We can jump start it fine, and it runs, but as soon as we disconnect the jumping battery, the car starts misfiring and dies. I would check the voltage across the battery while running, but it dies before I can.

So is my alternator stuffed? It was working fine before I had it serviced. It should still run without a battery at all right?

Any help, thanks in advance.

Author:  simon k [ Tue Jun 16, 2009 7:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Weird battery problems

Irish Yobbo wrote:
It was working fine before I had it serviced. It should still run without a battery at all right?


no, running a car without a battery will stuff the alternator and regulator - according to my local auto elec who did his apprenticeship with Lucas

use a battery charger to charge the battery up and see

with my limited knowledge the alternator doesn't sound healthy, it should keep running and charge the battery, though maybe not a lot at idle - I think they charge from 800rpm up, but maybe if it's in poor condition it won't charge until higher revs ?

Author:  gafmo [ Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:26 pm ]
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with IGN on do you have Lights or Horn. Can you check the battery is connect to Starter Solenoid, Check both Fuses, Check Earth strap in boot and Clutch cover to inner wheel arch and connection to Alternator

Author:  Tombo [ Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:30 pm ]
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What Simon said, most likely an alternator problem.

Potential battery problems:

Do you get big scarey sparks when connecting the jump battery? if you are it could be a shorted cell in the battery which will undo any work the alternator is doing to charge.

Look in the battery caps with a torch, the acid should be clear like water, any muddiness is a bad sign.

Look at the ends of the battery, they should be flat, swelling is a problem.

Author:  Convertible Mini [ Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:31 pm ]
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If all else fails take it to an Auto electrician that knows Minis. Easier than guessing.

Author:  Minifreak_brg67 [ Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:32 pm ]
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I would charge the battery overnight see if it holds volts then look at the atlernator. with a fully charged battery the car will run for a while without the alternator charging giving u enough time to check the charge rate

Author:  Irish Yobbo [ Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:02 am ]
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Yep, looks like the alternator or something else in the charging system is dead.

I checked the belt, but is there anything else it could possibly be? I was thinking of taking the alternator to an auto electrician to test, and just replace it if that's the problem. If its not, what else should I check for?

Thanks for your help.

Author:  66S [ Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:50 am ]
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A battery with an open circuit will show the same symptoms. If the alternator was OK when you last had the car in service, I think it is more than likely the battery. Have you got another battery you can try?

Regards
Al

Author:  AEG163job [ Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:54 pm ]
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Not one of those crap Besco batteries you Unzuders keep dumping on us, is it? :P

Author:  66S [ Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:34 pm ]
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Supercheap sell them here and they are Australian !!!!!

Batteries are like anything else, you pays your money and you gets your value.

Al

Author:  Austin850 [ Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:47 pm ]
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66S wrote:
Supercheap sell them here and they are Australian !!!!!

Batteries are like anything else, you pays your money and you gets your value.

Al


Maybe in NZ they badge them as Aussie and in Australia they badge them as Kiwi.

That way they don't raise anybody's expectations too high.

Author:  66S [ Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:59 pm ]
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

Al :?

Author:  AEG163job [ Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:25 pm ]
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66S wrote:

Batteries are like anything else, you pays your money and you gets your value.

Al


Or, you pays your money and yous take your chances! :lol:

Author:  mini maxx [ Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:54 pm ]
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Batteries last an average ov 3 years :D

Author:  Morris 1100 [ Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:56 pm ]
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mini maxx wrote:
Batteries last an average ov 3 years :D
That just means for every battery that lasts a year another battery will last for five years. 8)

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