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 Post subject: Ken Elder - 7 Port
PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2009 8:53 pm 
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Anyone seen it yet? Just got the email from the man himself, now doing both 8 and 7 port variants!


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so this "the man himself" is Ken Elder, or GR who is distributer???

What are they worth exactly, do you know?? I have been tossing the idea around.

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Ken, and not sure yet, I've emailed him back asking just that 8)


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Just heard back from Ken. Both 7 and 8 port heads are aluminium and will fit large or small bore engines, $3250.00


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Is that complete, with valves, springs etc?

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Sorry, that's all he left me with other than kenelderandsonsptyltd.com.au which he's hoping to have up Late June.


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That sounds pretty good..... i think :? :? :? :?

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I would rather have one of these.

HEAD ARDEN 8 PORT WITH VALVES AND NECCESSARY KIT PARTS C-AJJ4064
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THE ORIGINAL SPECIAL TUNING 8 PORT HEAD IS THE ULTIMATE PUSH ROD HEAD FOT THE "A"SERIES BUT IS NOT A STRAIGHT BOLT ON PART.IT IS AS ORIGINAL NEEDING FINE FETTLING AND COMBUSTION CHAMBER IS ABOUT 16CC WHICH ALLOWS MOST DESIRED SIZES AS REQUIRED FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL USE.ORIGINAL PEDESTALS REQUIRE MACHING AND LONGER TAPPET SCREWS ARE REQD AS THE PUSH RODS ARE NOT LONG ENOUGH.SOME ORIGINAL TUNERS USED MG1500 CC PUSH RODS AND MODIFIED,OR FORD ANGLIA 105E FOLLOWERS,AND MODIFIED PUSH RODS.IN THEORY THE PUSH RODS NEED TO BE .220"LONGER IF YOU ARE GETTING SOME MADE IN CARBON FIBRE OR METAL WE RECCOMEND USING ONE OF THE TOP TUNERS SUCH AS BILL RICHARDS RACING OR MED WHO HAVE DONE MANY OF THESE MODIFICATIONS. CONRODS ALSO NEED MODIFYING FOR CLEARANCE OWING TO CAM LOBE CONFIGURATION

£1,548.06 exc vat
£1,780.27 inc vat

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Thats quite expensive


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Excluding VAT i think they work about the same EXCLUDING postage.
But then the mods add to it

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Gotta love that exchange rate.....

£1,548.06 = $3114.81

($1.00 = 0.497 pence)

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Ask Graham Russell, but I think he said there's not much to pick now between the Arden and the Elder 8 ports.
He did the port redesigns for both. :wink:

As for the rod mods needed for the Arden, I think that only applies to the big journal cranks and rods. Not small journals and S rods.

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interesting, how does this compare in terms of price and work needed to miniman's twincam conversion?

can you install the elder head with the engine still in the car?


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Clutch-monkey wrote:
interesting, how does this compare in terms of price and work needed to miniman's twincam conversion?

can you install the elder head with the engine still in the car?

Yes you can fit the Elder 8 port head in the car. It's a bolt on job.
re the exhaust headers, I think the bends and flanges do come with the head but need welding? Used to...
Not sure about the 7 port, it might use standard LCB etc.

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So the Elder 8 port isn't like the old Arden 8 port which needed a different camshaft ?

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