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Author:  Mattmini [ Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:17 pm ]
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How would one go about verifying that a car is indeed the car it is, i.e, not stolen/rebirthed/whatever else happens, when it is missing just about every form of i.d? Got one shell used to be a racecar and has all the tags removes and another shell which is missing the tags but not too sure bout the history of it yet, will find out soon. I have proof of purchase for both cars.

Author:  drmini in aust [ Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:20 pm ]
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If the numbers have been cut out of the firewall and the radiator shroud, I would smell a rat... :lol:
It would not be the first stolen car turned into a racer.

Author:  Mattmini [ Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:30 pm ]
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The race car has genuine local race history owned by a few local names, still digging up proper info on the poeple who owned/raced it. I bought it off a reputable company who was the last company the car was raced for. The other car isnt in my shed yet and haven't spoken to the current owner bout its history, but i believe him to be trustworthy. So, apart from doubts, questions and opinions, is there any way? like wiper motor? i think thats the only thing left in the race car.

Author:  Morris 1100 [ Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:43 pm ]
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Depending on the car I could possibly tell what it was by looking at it. There are a few clues in some of the panels.

As for the lack of ID. You should be able to get a new ID issued by your states rego authority. They can issue a new chassis number.

Author:  Mattmini [ Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:51 pm ]
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How easy is it to get a new chassis number issued, and what info do i need for it?
On a side note, 10916 and ?O(maybe 0 or G)2S(5?)1 on a rad shroud, any clues? taken quite a beating and hsas been flattened a bit. Also, on another car Engine no is 9YA/Ta/H and next to it it has 33686 stamped, what does the 33686 mean? already know its a 998 from a Dlux.

Sorry to be annoying but I'm no good with this stuff.

Author:  simon k [ Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:00 pm ]
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Mattmini wrote:
How easy is it to get a new chassis number issued, and what info do i need for it?


talk to your rego authority

Mattmini wrote:
On a side note, 10916 and ?O(maybe 0 or G)2S(5?)1 on a rad shroud, any clues? taken quite a beating and hsas been flattened a bit.


YG2S1 is a Mini K I think - could it be that? the 10916 is the car number + 500

Mattmini wrote:
Also, on another car Engine no is 9YA/Ta/H and next to it it has 33686 stamped, what does the 33686 mean? already know its a 998 from a Dlux.


it's the 33686'th deluxe motor ;)

Author:  Mattmini [ Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:07 pm ]
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Image

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I dno, does that look K'ish?

how many K's were built?

Once again, sorry for my lack of competence in these issues, mini's are new to me and i still know little about them, its a long learning process for me.

couple of bigger pics if it helps

Author:  simon k [ Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:33 pm ]
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Mattmini wrote:
Image

I dno, does that look K'ish?


maybe - looks small! the wipers appear to be parking on the left hand side - other than that, can't tell from just one tiny photo :)

Mattmini wrote:
how many K's were built?


lots - most common model mini produced from April '69 to early '71, so plenty of them

Mattmini wrote:
Once again, sorry for my lack of competence in these issues, mini's are new to me and i still know little about them, its a long learning process for me.


it's OK - keep asking

Author:  drmini in aust [ Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:02 pm ]
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Simon, there were far more Deluxes built than Mini Ks... :wink:

Author:  mini maxx [ Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:04 pm ]
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Keep firing questions dude the people on this forum are a wealth ov info, but im not, dont ask me squat , i forget everything

Author:  simon k [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:56 am ]
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drmini in aust wrote:
Simon, there were far more Deluxes built than Mini Ks... :wink:


I qualified it!

Quote:
lots - most common model mini produced from April '69 to early '71, so plenty of them


'between' might have been more appropriate rather than 'from' - but there was qualification!! :lol:

Author:  Morris 1100 [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:49 pm ]
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YG2S1 is a K.
YG2S5 is a poverty Mini 1100.
It looks like one or the other.

In 1969 they didn't fit any ID or Compliance plate under the bonnet. The stamping on the radiator shroud panel is the proper ID.
There is also a body number stamping in the gutter at the rear of the bonnet opening.

If you can read the number on the radiator shroud panel you can register the car. You may need to carefully clean the panel to read it better.

Does it have any interior?
Where is the gear lever hole?
Dash?
Did it ever have hydro?

Author:  Mattmini [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:39 pm ]
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Morris 1100 wrote:
YG2S1 is a K.
YG2S5 is a poverty Mini 1100.
It looks like one or the other.


Yay, pov pack.lol.

Morris 1100 wrote:
In 1969 they didn't fit any ID or Compliance plate under the bonnet. The stamping on the radiator shroud panel is the proper ID.
There is also a body number stamping in the gutter at the rear of the bonnet opening.


If you can read the number on the radiator shroud panel you can register the car. You may need to carefully clean the panel to read it better.[/quote]

I sanded the paint (layers and layers of it) back but its taken a beating, the Y is definately missing, G is near indistinguishable the S looks like a 5 and the S looks like a 1 lol. If i get the number out of the boot gutter, can it be matched with the rad shroud number?

Morris 1100 wrote:
Does it have any interior?
Where is the gear lever hole?
Dash?
Did it ever have hydro?


It had a seat, don't think it was original though as it was loose in the shell, there ar 3 gear lever holes, a pudding stick hole, a remote shift hole and another hole further back for the rear gearstick.
Dash was custon when i got it, but the underneath is split into 3 sections
Not sure bout the hydro

Author:  Morris 1100 [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:41 pm ]
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Which gearlever hole looks factory made?

Author:  MiniPete [ Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:43 pm ]
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Looks kinda like it had a Mini K bonnet badge looking at the bonnet?
Not that that proves anything...

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