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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:55 pm 
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Is it difficult to convert a clubman mini's suspension from Hydrolastic to Dry cone? And what kind of dollars am I looking at?

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PS: oh and could someone in the know please do a run thru of how to tune SU carburetors "for dummies" and stick it in the How To section .... I would love u forever :wink: :D

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Foxy wrote:

PS: oh and could someone in the know please do a run thru of how to tune SU carburetors "for dummies" and stick it in the How To section .... I would love u forever :wink: :D

A good idea and include twins as well.
Once you get use to them and understand them, they are quite easy.


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if i remember correctly wombat posted a thing about tuning su's, search it (the 'search all terms' button is your friend!!!)


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Swapping from wet to dry depends on what kind of tools you have at home, what stage of restoration the car is in and what finished result you would like.

You could either find some dry subframes and bolt them on, but youll need the dampers and the top arms from the dry car. This is probably the easiest, as you can bolt both subframes on as assemblys and be happy with your dry suspension, but you also run the risk of putting shagged components on.

Another way to go is to order a whole set of what youll need, and fit them to your wet subframes after youve taken the hydro gear out, but this will be quite expensive, i was quoted about 2 grand for everything brand new.

Those are your main options, so now youve got to weigh up whether it's worth it or not.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:22 pm 
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Foxy wrote:
Is it difficult to convert a clubman mini's suspension from Hydrolastic to Dry cone? And what kind of dollars am I looking at?

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PS: oh and could someone in the know please do a run thru of how to tune SU carburetors "for dummies" and stick it in the How To section .... I would love u forever :wink: :D



What date is the Clubman ? Is it original ?

If its original , there are very few original hydrolastic Clubman's still around !

If thats the case , keep its value , keep it original !




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Its a 72, all original, under 60,000 miles on it.

Not sure if I want to convert it yet I'm just spit ballin'.

Thanks for the info tho.

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if i remember correctly wombat posted a thing about tuning su's, search it (the 'search all terms' button is your friend!!!)


Sorry for the inconveniance there DTrain, I did do a search and came up with 42 pages of posts that I will need to find a few hours to wade thru. I kinda thought that I would find a "How To" in the "How To" section, looked all thru there and didnt see anything. My bad.

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Its a 72, all original, under 60,000 miles on it.

Not sure if I want to convert it yet I'm just spit ballin'.

Thanks for the info tho.



You might spend $1,500 or so converting it to rubber cones but at the same time the car's value will lose $2000 due to the fact that your rarer car is no longer original.

Leave it as it is, just keep the hydro system in good order and pumped up to the correct pressure.




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You might spend $1,500 or so converting it to rubber cones but at the same time the car's value will lose $2000 due to the fact that your rarer car is no longer original.

Leave it as it is, just keep the hydro system in good order and pumped up to the correct pressure.


OK so next question ... lol... If I do keep it the hydro, what is it i need and how do i maintain it myself. I dont really have anywhere near me that would know what to do with a mini and I dont know the first thing about suspension. I have heard of a hand pump thingy that would do it but i have never actually seen one or know where i could find it.

sorry if these are stupid questions i'm just learning as i go so i have lots of them.

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no inconvenience i was just giving you a heads up on how to use the search function. you got 42 pages because you didnt click the "search all terms" button

http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=28695&highlight=tuning+carbs try that for starters


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Youd be surprised who can pump up and maintain hydro suspension. I was ready to ditch the hydro on my daily until my dad went into the local pedders and he said he had the pump and the fluid there, so could do it that day. So try local places. Im sure the doc or morris 1100 will drop in soon and tell you how to make a hydro pump.
You use a pedal box usually and a few lines to connect it all up.

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Have a look here

http://www.ausmini.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=56915&highlight=hydro+servicing


Some good information and photo's




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Ahh thats awesome folks, Thanx very much.

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It would also to be wise to check the condition of the fluid, and refill with fresh fluid if it appears contaminated.

To do it thoroughly, that means removing & emptying the displacers. A lot of work, but worth it IMO. It also gives you the opportunity to check the condition of the hose connections (displacer end) on the front displacers, which are prone to rust.

As for fluid, I recommend the Nulon engine coolant, the concentrated stuff. Much better than the "factory" stuff you can get nowdays which looks pretty watery to me.

Just my opinions of course. And you know what Inspector Callaghan said about opinions. :roll:

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