1st gear is up the top to the left
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| Author: | 72clubman [ Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | (FIXED) help with selecting 1st gear |
i am having some problems with selecting first gear usually have to go to second before i can get first gear when i do get it in 1st gear clutch does not engage until very high up so far i have adjusted according to the manual its also a fresh engine 0kms on it, has all new parts any ideas? |
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| Author: | mini maxx [ Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:50 pm ] |
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1st gear is up the top to the left
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| Author: | michaelb [ Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:42 pm ] |
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Sorry to say but it sounds like my recent problem where the clutch housing gasket was too thin thereby giving insufficient clearance for the idler gear. This caused the idler gear to bind and prevented the clutch from allowing the gears to stop moving enough to easily select 1st gear. This became worse as the engine heated up. . |
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| Author: | Mini Mad [ Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:42 pm ] |
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it's interesting why your clutch would engage at different places in each gear...? are you trying to engage 1st while still moving or still having trouble stopped? |
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| Author: | 72clubman [ Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:44 pm ] |
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i used the fatter orange gasket and measured 3 thou clearance and it all spins fine when i did the housing bolts up the clutch take up point is the same in each gear, just cant get it into 1st gear without going to 2nd or reverse first |
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| Author: | GT mowog [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:28 pm ] |
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If this is happening when your stationary it is fairly normal. After a bit of running and when the oil heats up, it will become a little easier, but 50% of the time, you'll still find it 'easier' to engauge 2nd then 1st. |
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| Author: | people_eater [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:36 pm ] |
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i agree with you GT my people eater is the same, doesnt annoy me to much its how i learned to drive old cars anyways. |
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| Author: | simon k [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:39 pm ] |
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72clubman wrote: i used the fatter orange gasket and measured 3 thou clearance and it all spins fine when i did the housing bolts up
whew! glad you checked! |
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| Author: | 72clubman [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:45 pm ] |
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the only difference is the clutch arm now is a thicker type, and my old one had been bent, also have a new clutch master cylinder. i did a few little short runs up the drive way hopefully a few longer runs up and down the road will make things work better what is the effect of too much clearance on primary gear and idler gear? |
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| Author: | simon k [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:49 pm ] |
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if it's a brand new engine, don't worry about the clutch and running it up and down the driveway, run the engine in properly first, then worry about the clutch |
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| Author: | michaelb [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:12 pm ] |
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Quote: the only difference is the clutch arm now is a thicker type, and my old one had been bent, also have a new clutch master cylinder.
You may have answered your question? If the old clutch arm was bent it was possibly to allow sufficient travel of the clutch slave cylinder to operate the clutch. Your problem couild be that the slave cylinder now does not have enough travel due to the new and straight clutch arm? Does that make sense? |
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| Author: | 72clubman [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:55 pm ] |
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I just bleed the clutch again and it seems better would a new slave cylinder be the answer to not bending the arm master cylinder is new slave cylinder is old but it worked fine on my old engine |
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| Author: | meeni [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:24 pm ] |
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i just had a similar problem with my car, after pulling the whole clutch assembly apart in the car because i thought my idler gear was incorrectly set... but it was my brand new clutch master cylider that was either the wrong size or didnt do something right and it wouldnt allow me enough clutch to get it into any gears.... let alone first, i put my old tin master cylinder on and it fixed the problem instantly... could be the problem your having and i must admit that i was really annoyed something i spent alot of money on as a clutch master cylinder didnt work well 
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| Author: | drmini in aust [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:30 pm ] |
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I'd check the bore of your new master cylinder. It should be 0.75", but- some Minis had a 0.70" one, it just doesn't move enough fluid to give good clutch plate release. If it's not 0.75" bore, take the bugger back and jump up and down... 
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| Author: | 72clubman [ Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:59 pm ] |
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i have the tin type master cylinder does that come in both sizes could it be the slave cylider |
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