Hey guys,

Are there any differences between a dry subframe from a 61round nose to a 76 clubman?

Reason i ask is that the rear subframe on my roundnose is not crash hot but im pretty sure i have a subframe out of a 76 lying around here somewhere??

cheers

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'71&'76 Clubman minis
1961 Austin Se7en

I'm pretty sure all the dry subframes used out here were all the same.
Different dry frames for the front are:

Mk1 / aussie dry frame
Automatic dry (somone confirm if this variant exists?)
Manual english MK3
Automatic english MK3
Hydrolastic (both manual and auto).

Rears from any year of production are interchangable, just watch for hydro or dry.

are the trailing arms at the rear the same then too???

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'71&'76 Clubman minis
1961 Austin Se7en

Pretty sure all the rear dry trailing arms were the same, except the real early ones which had bushes both sides for the trailing arm pin.

Different types of rear radius arms:

Hydro
Dry
Moke (longer than mini ones)

The trailing arms have any combination for the shaft bearings.
99% of minis have the bearing on the inside and bush on the outside.
GT menioned some early cars having two bushes and I believe some of the late mokes had 2 bearings.

All 13" "big" wheel Mokes have the two bearings. Not sure about little wheelers.

The 76 subframe will bolt into your 61 without a problem. But there may be some minor differences in things like fuel pump bracketry holes. If you not going for an original restoration it's not going to worry you.

Cheers,

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Brett Nicholson
Greendale (near Ballan) VIC.
1971 Morris Mini Moke
1966 Austin Mini
1965 Morris Mini Traveller
1973 LR Series 3 88
2007 LR Freelander 2

And 13" wheeled moke ones which are slightly longer , I have seen a couple of cars that people have fitted big wheel moke rear subframes to without checking (that's a mini subframe there , that'll fit ...)only to have wheel fouling problems .

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Yes Automatic Dry do exist. I have a Countryman (Traveller without wood) with a factory fitted Auto in a dry subframe.
I haven't seen another yet...

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How can it be rusty when it's covered in so much oil?

I'm getting Off Topic, but this is a common misconception.

Morris Travellers could be had with or without wood. The same was true of the Austin Countryman - with or without wood was available. It was the brand that defined the model name, not the presence of wood. There was no Austin Traveller or Morris Countryman.

It's interesting to know that you have an Automatic one. I've never seen an Automatic Traveller or Countryman in Aus.

Cheers,

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Brett Nicholson
Greendale (near Ballan) VIC.
1971 Morris Mini Moke
1966 Austin Mini
1965 Morris Mini Traveller
1973 LR Series 3 88
2007 LR Freelander 2

The main difference between an early dry rear subby and a `76, is the `76 has holes for the hydro pipes, which were no longer used by then.

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DrMini- 1970 wasaMatic 1360, Mk1S crank, 86.6HP (ATW) =~125 @ crank, 45 Dellorto (38 chokes), RE282 sprint cam, 1.5 rockers, 11.0:1 C/R.

Thanks bnicho, now you mention it I know your correct about the names
If you want to see an automatic Traveller let me know... mind you, to acutually get to it I'd have to move allot of accumulated stuff, but I can see it (just).

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How can it be rusty when it's covered in so much oil?

I've recently unburied mine.

Its now in a new shed, after spending two years on the back patio. It still looks like a wreck though. I've been saying "next year" for the past eight years now.

Cheers,

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Brett Nicholson
Greendale (near Ballan) VIC.
1971 Morris Mini Moke
1966 Austin Mini
1965 Morris Mini Traveller
1973 LR Series 3 88
2007 LR Freelander 2