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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:34 pm 
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hey,

im converting the steering coloum in my clubby to a rover steering coloum.
with wipers on the right hand stalk.

indicator wires and ignition wire colours are all the same but the wiper wires are differnt on the rover coloum.

so basicly am keen to find out what wires on the rover coloum control what.

in my clubby i no that the blue is speed 2 red is speed one black earth and i think black and bluie is self park.

the rover coloum has 5 wires red n green. green and brown. black and green. blue and green. lastly green.

i am unsure what the wire conversions are

if you have done this before and can help out it would be greatly appreciated.

cheerz matt.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:53 pm 
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Hi,

Did you ever get this sorted? I'm having exactly the same problem putting a mid-90's Rover column into my Moke. The loom and wiper motor in my Moke is 76 Clubman.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:28 am 
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I might be your friend here and you my Customer ! If you can bring me the car ! Not something I can explain to you I am sorry. Not easy as one thinks. One wrong connection and the switch or Motor park switch will smoke up. Be ware.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:33 am 
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Bit lengthy, but the Rover manual says.....


WINDSCREEN WIPERS AND WASHERS OPERATION

The wiper system is a two speed system, incorporating single wipe, intermittent wipe and a screen wash/wipe facility. The normal speed is controlled directly via the column switches. The intermittent wipe, fast speed and wash/wipe are controlled by the front wiper control unit. The windscreen wipers will only operate when the starter switch at position I or II.

Provided the starter switch is in position I or II, one side of the auxiliary relay coil receives battery voltage on an LG wire from the starter switch. Since the other side of the relay coil is connected to earth, the relay will energise, switching battery voltage from fusible link 2 in the engine compartment fuse box via the relay contacts on an LGW wire to fuse B8 in the passenger compartment fuse box. Fuse B8 connects the battery voltage to the wash/ wipe switch, windscreen wiper motor and wiper control unit on an LGO wire.

Intermittent wipe
When the intermittent option is selected, battery voltage on an LGO wire to the wiper switch is switched via the switch on an LGG to the wiper control unit. The wiper control unit provides an output on the NLG wire via the wash/wipe switch on a ULG wire to the motor slow speed terminal after a fixed delay of approximately 5 seconds. Since the other motor terminal is permanently connected to earth on a B wire, the motor will rotate causing the wiper blades to operate.

Wiper normal speed
With the wiper switch in position I, battery voltage on an LGO wire from fuse B8 in the passenger compartment fuse box is switched via the wash/wipe low switch on a ULG wire to the motor slow speed terminal. Since the other motor terminal is permanently connected to earth on a B wire, the motor will rotate causing the wiper blades to operate.

Wiper fast speed
With the wiper switch in position II, battery voltage on an LGO wire from fuse B8 in the passenger compartment fuse box is switched via the wash/wipe high switch on a RLG wire to the motor fast speed terminal. Since the other motor terminal is permanently connected to earth on a B wire, the motor will rotate causing the wiper blades to operate.

Single wipe
When the right-hand steering column lever is pressed down momentarily, battery voltage is switched on an LGO wire from fuse B8 in the passenger compartment fuse box via the front wash/wipe switch on an RLG wire to the motor fast speed terminal. Since the other motor terminal is permanently connected to earth on a B wire, the motor will rotate causing the wiper blades to operate. The wipers perform a single operation and if the lever is held in the down position, the wipers will continue to operate.

Wash/wipe
When the wash switch is operated, battery voltage on an LGO wire is switched from fuse B8 in the passenger compartment fuse box on an OR wire to one terminal of the washer pump. Since the other washer pump terminal is permanently connected to earth on a B wire, the pump will dispense water to the screen. Simultaneously the front wiper control unit receives battery voltage on an OR wire. The front wiper control unit responds by supplying battery voltage on an NLG wire via the wash/wipe low switch to the wiper motor slow speed terminal on a ULG wire. Since the other motor terminal is permanently connected to earth on a B wire, the motor will rotate causing the wiper blades to operate.

Wiper motor park
The integral wiper motor park switch is designed to switch battery voltage from fuse B8 in the passenger compartment fuse box on an LGO wire to the front wiper control unit on an NLG wire. This ensures that, when the wash/wipe switch is turned to the OFF position, the wiper control unit responds by supplying battery voltage on an NLG wire via the wash/wipe low switch to the wiper motor slow speed terminal on a ULG wire. This returns the park switch to the rest position.


BTW, the colour codes are:

B Black
G Green
K Pink
LG Light Green
N Brown
O Orange
P Purple
R Red
S Slate (grey)
U Blue
W White
Y Yellow

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:46 am 
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OK, maybe it's not a 90's Stalk, maybe it's 80's. It does not have an intermittent wipers position, just low, high and then a springloaded position beyond high I assume is wash and wipe at the same time. Pushing the end of the stalk should run the washers only.

I have the ignition switch, horn and dip all working.

I'm left with five wires on the stalk. I've tried various combinations but have not found one that has all functions working. I'm not fussed about Park, as it does not work in the current motor anyway. I just want low, high and the washers working. I'm fitting this column because I'm sick of leaning forward to grope on the dash in the dark.

I was hoping someone could tell me connect X to Y and ignore Z as I doubt I'm the first person to attempt this. If I have to I will sit down with a test lamp and figure it out. So far I've just got things arse about - for example washers operating at the high speed position. :P

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:52 am 
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A snapshot:

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Please ignore the green wire with the missing terminal. I broke it and will need to put a new spade terminal on it.

Cheers,

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:22 pm 
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you should of put the steering column through the hole in the carpet :wink: :wink:

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Gadgets mini wrote:
you should of put the steering column through the hole in the carpet :wink: :wink:


:lol:

It's a Moke, the carpet is removable so I can lt it dry out occasionally. :P

Cheers,
Brett.

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