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| Author: | jbeenz [ Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Ball Joints - why wont they budge! |
Okay, I give up - im asking for help... The ball joints on my disc hubs will not come undone, I have never had problems before with other minis, but these just will not come off. Even with the balljoint in the vice, and a bar on the steering arm, the vice just sliped (small vice) Im at the point where i dont care if i destroy them in the process - I will replace, if i can just get them off! |
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| Author: | 850man [ Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:36 am ] |
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Have you bent the locktabs back? I use a rattle gun so that makes life easier. |
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| Author: | Wombat [ Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:55 am ] |
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They seem to get tighter the long they sit - I did some up about 3 months back and they were too stiff when done and left it until yetserday to redo the shims - took a hell of a lot more than 70ft/lbs to get it undone 
You need a bigger vice - mine is 4" and is barely adequate |
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| Author: | BALLISTIC [ Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:10 am ] |
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A little bit of heat may just do the trick. |
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| Author: | mtsmini [ Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Balljoints |
Soak them in diesel for a week. Then, dry them off and try again. If it doesn't work then apply heat to the arm so it can expand and release the thread. |
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| Author: | Wombat [ Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Balljoints |
mtsmini wrote: Soak them in diesel for a week. Then, dry them off and try again.
If it doesn't work then apply heat to the arm so it can expand and release the thread. Don't you mean heat the retaining nut? As you heat the nut it gets bigger the 'hole' gets bigger and loosens it. Heat the body and the thread expands and locks more into the nut |
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| Author: | mtsmini [ Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | balljts |
Yep...you are correct. Englerlish is a wonderful language... |
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| Author: | Panthersteve [ Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ball Joints - why wont they budge! |
jbeenz wrote: Even with the balljoint in the vice, and a bar on the steering arm, the vice just sliped (small vice) Sounds to me he has gotten the nut off, just can't get the taper to let go. My .02c in this case would be to get the ball joint splitter talked about on here not too long ago. I haven't had one yet that wouldn't seperate with this tool. steve |
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| Author: | jbeenz [ Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:01 am ] |
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Hi Guys, Just to clarify, The hub is off the car, cv's are out, arms are all off, Im trying to get the balljoint apart so I can adjust the shims, or replace the joint. I think I shall try some heat. |
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| Author: | Panthersteve [ Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:57 am ] |
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jbeenz wrote: Hi Guys,
Im trying to get the balljoint apart So is the nut off or not 
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| Author: | GT mowog [ Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:21 am ] |
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I don't think holding the 'nut' in a vice would be the go, though I've never done it that way, it would tend to slip out as it is only being held on 2 sides and tightening the vice only tightens the thread........... I'd suggest holding the hub in a vice (in a careful way) and using a deep dish socket (1 1/2" AF) to undo them. Yes you don't have one etc but I don't think you could do the job any other way. Try supercrap for the socket and wrench (they're usually 3/4"drive). |
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| Author: | Leighton [ Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:18 pm ] |
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I removed the nut by bolting the hub to a spare wheel. I stood on the tyre and a bit of the backing plate so it wouldn't spin. too easy. |
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| Author: | Wombat [ Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:17 pm ] |
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Yes you really do need a deep socket - I had a shallow one and a deep one was like $54  so I measured up and bought a 27mm socket for $5 from CrashConverters and welded it on top.  Last of the cheapskates 
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| Author: | GT mowog [ Mon Nov 30, 2009 1:55 pm ] |
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Wombat wrote: Yes you really do need a deep socket - I had a shallow one and a deep one was like $54
so I measured up and bought a 27mm socket for $5 from CrashConverters and welded it on top. Last of the cheapskates Hey yeah wombat, not a bad idea. I have actually made complete 6 sided sockets from 1 x 5/16" flat bar steel - not for impact use!! I made them to fit the metro ball joints. Took a bit of time but hey, back then I didn't even bother pricing a socket as I just had no money. |
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| Author: | drmini in aust [ Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:51 pm ] |
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Wombat wrote: Yes you really do need a deep socket - I had a shallow one and a deep one was like $54
so I measured up and bought a 27mm socket for $5 from CrashConverters and welded it on top. Last of the cheapskates Ah so, you are learning well, Grasshopper... 
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